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New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 15:04
by lmejianyc
I have a question..i been asking alot of people normal doctors don't believe what I'm doing...but here the story So it been about 1 week in with 18 or16 hour IF... weight loss I'm doing great I'm about 270 pounds that from 286 at 2 weeks of a juice fast that got me sick...so i started IF 18 or 16 IF.. with meds my BP still up there 150/100 to 142/93..I know i post about this all :confused: the time this I understand that but my BP was the lowest i every got 90/60 that tooo low but im just saying...Does IF need more time to kick in good BP.. Help i want to add juice again but people been saying about the the sugar Spike... if u cant help it ok im just looking right way to kill high blood pressure and no more meds.. i just copy paste sorry for the confusion

Re: Quick question! What surprised you when you started fast

PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 15:52
by Tracieknits
lmejianyc wrote: I have a question..i been asking alot of people normal doctors don't believe what I'm doing...but here the story So it been about 1 week in with 18 or16 hour IF... weight loss I'm doing great I'm about 270 pounds that from 286 at 2 weeks of a juice fast that got me sick...so i started IF 18 or 16 IF.. with meds my BP still up there 150/100 to 142/93..I know i post about this all :confused: the time this I understand that but my BP was the lowest i every got 90/60 that tooo low but im just saying...Does IF need more time to kick in good BP.. Help i want to add juice again but people been saying about the the sugar Spike... if u cant help it ok im just looking right way to kill high blood pressure and no more meds.. i just copy paste sorry for the confusion


NO JUICE.

Ok, I have to be honest. I don't completely understand what you're saying here. What is IF 18 or 16? Do you mean 18 hour fasting window?

NONE OF THIS WILL BE INSTANT. You can't assume you're going to get healthy blood pressure in a week or necessarily even a month. Your body took a while to get to 286 pounds and your BP took a while to get to 150/100. There is no magic fix. It will take time, patience and commitment.

However it is totally doable. I was 272lbs and now I'm 201. So believe me, I get it.

The program that will work for you is the one that you can stick with for a long time. It bears repeating: THE PROGRAM THAT WILL WORK FOR YOU IS THE ONE YOU CAN STICK WITH FOR A LONG TIME.

You can try a fad diet, like juicing (no, please don't. Juicing is not a good idea) and you can lose weight quickly, but the second you go back to old habits, the weight will pile back on and then some.

Start off reducing your carbs every day (try something reasonable at first, like limiting your carbs to 4 servings per day). and try intermittent fasting two days a week, where you don't eat until as late in the day as possible and you only eat 600 calories (because of your weight) in the whole day. On fast days, try eating as few carbs as possible, sticking to lean meats and vegetables (to keep the calories down).

This forum has a wealth of information. It's worth your time to read through it.

Re: Quick question! What surprised you when you started fast

PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 17:36
by lmejianyc
intermittent fasting now 16 to 18 hours kind of work for me because i work nights 11pm to 7am.. i start eating around 4pm or 5pm..I was looking in to keto diet but I'm scared about the sodium intake.. I'm trying to be vegetarian but it's hard to cook the food somtimes and the Frozen vegetarian meals loaded with sodium.. I don't really eat bread anymore lol... since fasting I have no more sweet tooth that was my issue don't answer have now is that I get light-headed once in awhile... I guess my body is adapting and what I'm doing I hope.... also thinking about just 8 oz of cucumber and celery juice a day because of the blood pressure benefits but I'm not sure yet thank you for your help

Re: New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 11 Jul 2017, 17:57
by Tracieknits
lmejianyc wrote: intermittent fasting now 16 to 18 hours kind of work for me because i work nights 11pm to 7am.. i start eating around 4pm or 5pm..I was looking in to keto diet but I'm scared about the sodium intake.. I'm trying to be vegetarian but it's hard to cook the food somtimes and the Frozen vegetarian meals loaded with sodium.. I don't really eat bread anymore lol... since fasting I have no more sweet tooth that was my issue don't answer have now is that I get light-headed once in awhile... I guess my body is adapting and what I'm doing I hope.... also thinking about just 8 oz of cucumber and celery juice a day because of the blood pressure benefits but I'm not sure yet thank you for your help


I wouldn't be scared of the keto diet. My endocrinologist strongly recommends it. My husband's cardiologist says some people's blood pressure is influenced by their sodium intake, and some aren't. Do you know where yours stands yet? Does it change a lot when you change your sodium intake? while 150/100 is not great, it's also not terrible. Simply adding more walking to your daily routine might help more than juicing.

I don't recommend celery and cucumber juice. If you want the benefits, eat a cucumber and some celery. That way you also get the fiber and other nutrients, not just the sugars that occur naturally in the cucumber and celery.

I gained a lot of weight when I went vegetarian. Going Veg usually means eating way more carbs than you need.

@lmejianyc I'm going to move these posts to your own thread, so that more people see them and and your conversation can be on it's own :-)

Re: New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 13 Jul 2017, 16:19
by MaryAnn
I agree with Tracieknits that eating whole fruits and vegetables is better than juice. I'm not sure where you got the idea that cucumber and celery juice are good for your BP, but it sounds like nonsense to me.

How about exercise? This is as important (or maybe more) than diet for your health.

Anyway... it sounds like you are losing weight on IF, which is great! I wish you continued success!

Re: New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 14 Jul 2017, 11:20
by lmejianyc
Getting a bit concern I've talk of a few times sorry for bugging you people my Blood pressure is ridiculously high this morning 156/104...keto diet or 18/6 IF... I'm looking at low-carb cut the red meat and do vegetarian diet..or somthing I been reading that fasting  cortisol levels can play they part..or ot can be lack of sleep only 3 to 4 hour I have too much too much energy to go back to sleep...going to drink blood pressure tea to see if it help any.....I did eat out very large dinner at BBQ's but that was my only meal..reading too much os not good too much water is not good for you any truth on that. If so what's your water schedule people...

Re: New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 14 Jul 2017, 11:57
by lmejianyc
after 1 hour of taking my meds drinking my blood pressure tea my blood pressure is back to normal... bouncing around but cuz it's really annoying

Re: New and questions IF and Juicing

PostPosted: 14 Jul 2017, 13:51
by Tracieknits
Go back to bed!

I'm only kidding, a little. Seriously, sleep is such a huge factor. Lack of sleep messes up your hormones in your body interfering with everything from metabolism to hunger to blood sugar. It also is bad for cognitive function and a lack of sleep continuously can contribute to Alzheimers --- among other things. Sleep is the #1 thing you can do for your health.

I'm glad to hear your BP normalized after taking your medicine.

Why do you want to cut red meat or go on a vegetarian diet? While there are many perfectly legitimate reasons to do either of those things, if the only reason you're doing it is to lose weight, I don't think that's necessary at all. I'm not sure what you would eat on a vegetarian keto diet anyway. Lots of olive oil and nuts and veggies?

Weight Loss is not/should not be a rush to results. Sustainable weight loss is about making small changes at a time to create healthier behaviors that will last. If you just do a quick/hardcore diet to drop 20 pounds ASAP and then you're done with dieting, like most people do, then the weight might come off, but it will come back on the second you stop. Usually with a few extra pounds on top.

I have been working for several years on my weight. I'm down 70 lbs. I've made so many healthy changes, so gradually, that even when I relax a little, I don't gain much back. I've lost my taste for most of what I used to eat and frankly much of it doesn't even interest me any more. But it's taken a few years to get to this point.

Water -- yes, drinking way too much is unhealthy. People have even died after water drinking contests. But that's abnormal behavior and forcing yourself to drink stupid quantities. I don't have a water drinking schedule or regimen. I drink water (or flavored seltzer) if I'm thirsty. I'll occasionally have an unsweetened iced tea. But I have my two double espressos in the morning, then usually 1 cup of hot tea midmorning, then nothing but water. two or three times a week I might have a bit of wine with/after dinner. But really, I drink water if I'm thirsty. I probably have 4 or 5 glasses of water a day? not sure. Depends on how much salt I've consumed too.