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There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 08 Apr 2016, 18:56
by lovemyparrot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zNI2HEwJnE
This appeared last night on the NBC Nightly News - one of the big three National news broadcasts in the U.S. - its about "bleeping" time, I would say !!!!!!
Just wanted to add that, if I ate meals the size of the ones featured on my non-fast days, I would easily weigh 300 pounds !!!!!!

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 08 Apr 2016, 20:58
by CandiceMarie
Thanks LMP
Feels like all the effort is worth while if fasting really does have an optimum effect on health/ ageing ( and weight)
Think in this vid clip theyre a bit overly optimistic stating that ' feast ' days can comprise of 2,200 cals
..that deffo wdnt work for me!
Thanks for sharing xx

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 08 Apr 2016, 22:56
by bordergirl
:victory: It is great to see Intermittent Fasting getting some positive press here in the U.S. for a change! What a great story! I agree with Dr. Varady in that I don't think I could go much higher on "Feast Days" than 10% higher even if I wanted to.
:lol: It is a bit of a coincidence seeing this thread, because I was thinking about how relatively easy it is maintaining my 5:2 weight loss when I know so many people who put it all (and then some) back on in less than a year. It made me curious, so I looked up my initial start date weigh-in (158 lbs) on 3-21-2013. My goal weight was 137, which I hit in 11-30-2013. Since then,over a period of 2 and one-half years, I have been above 137 about 3 times --up to 141 lbs. for a week or two at a time and then back down. I would bet that is fairly unusual in the dieting universe!
I think it would be very interesting for there to be attention directed to the overall sustainability of this WOE/WOL. We should also look at what happens when we do mess up and fall off the rails, how doable is it to hop back on and go back to it? Speaking for myself, it seems to be a viable way of life.

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 01:09
by Pilchards
I think that it is great that there is more acceptance of this WOL/WOE generally. I am certainly more comfortable telling people about it and don't get as much negative feedback as I used to.

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 08:23
by Sifrina
bordergirl wrote: :victory: It is great to see Intermittent Fasting getting some positive press here in the U.S. for a change! What a great story! I agree with Dr. Varady in that I don't think I could go much higher on "Feast Days" than 10% higher even if I wanted to.
:lol: It is a bit of a coincidence seeing this thread, because I was thinking about how relatively easy it is maintaining my 5:2 weight loss when I know so many people who put it all (and then some) back on in less than a year. It made me curious, so I looked up my initial start date weigh-in (158 lbs) on 3-21-2013. My goal weight was 137, which I hit in 11-30-2013. Since then,over a period of 2 and one-half years, I have been above 137 about 3 times --up to 141 lbs. for a week or two at a time and then back down. I would bet that is fairly unusual in the dieting universe!
I think it would be very interesting for there to be attention directed to the overall sustainability of this WOE/WOL. We should also look at what happens when we do mess up and fall off the rails, how doable is it to hop back on and go back to it? Speaking for myself, it seems to be a viable way of life.

Bordergirl - Thank you for this post! After I stopped this WOE for some stupid reason AND stopped weighing myself (this after successfully losing about 17 lbs, reaching 132 lbs on ADF; I'll never make these mistakes again!!!), I gained back all I lost plus gained more, solely because I stopped fasting. So now, 2 years later, I'm at 159 lbs (and I'm only 5 ft 4!) and I'm back on ADF at age 47. I really don't know why I stopped fasting; I actually don't mind it most days and some days even look forward to it/feel good. The only non stupid thing I've done in this 'non ADF' 2 year time period is upping my exercise so my overall body shape, health, and fitness are decent.

So, reading your story, especially since your starting weight is so close to mine, is inspiring me in getting out of this new low ('high') and keeping it off pretty much like you do. I was wondering when you lost your weight, how often did you fast per week and did you count calories on non fast days? Also, for exercise, if you did, how often did you exercise, and on fast days too? Finally, how old are you and how tall? Sorry for all the questions - any info is so much appreciated.

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2016, 23:12
by CandiceMarie
You raise interesting questions @bordergirl ..as someone who started fasting two and a half years ago, i've lost,regained THREE times in total..Now in week one of yet another try..i think what happens is when i fall off,i fall off bigstyle..guess i am an all or nothing gal! As for doable - ness to hop on again..it HAS to be when youre in the right frame of mind..i am convinced you can only fast when it seems like a great idea for yr health more than anything..other times to me it feels likeWHAT! fasting is madness,its too difficult!
Its demoralising to regain weight after the hard work of losing,but for me it applies to any food reduction plan i try follow ( slimmers world,weight watchers) Only difference with fasting is i believe in the health benefits and i think even after failing and regaining,that i somehow retain some of the health benefits..its never exactly back to square one healthwise tho it may be - and worse - weight-wise! X
What do other serial losers n gainers think?

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 10 Apr 2016, 08:02
by bordergirl
CandiceMarie, I think you are spot on about the right time thing. For me, I guess, that time comes pretty quickly after I go up a few pounds. I think part of it is that I really enjoy being relatively slim after about 20 years of being overweight (I'm 67 for about 5 weeks more! ) So I climb back on the horse before it gets too far out of the gate.
Reasons include: #1 I really don't want to go back to being heavy, and there really doesn't seem to be a reason to go back. I'm retired, so no more job stress. I like zumba, so I get exercise. I like the way I feel. #2 For my own health and continued quality of life (family history of heart trouble and diabetes) and as a good influence for my siblings and nieces. #3 It is so much more fun to get dressed when I don't have to struggle to find something that fits and that doesn't look toooo bad. Everything fits and looks pretty good. What a change! :smile: #4 I enjoy being relatively slim. Strangely enough, I feel like the overweight body I lived in for those 20 years I was kind of an impostor body, not really mine. I feel like I'm back in my real body eating the way I used to eat. I've always liked pretty healthy food, so it isn't terribly hard. It's mostly reasonable portions.
Through those 20 years, I had some false starts. Weight Watchers didn't work for me. I tried other things sporadically without success. 5:2 is what seemed to work and continues to keep me on track. I hope this time will work for you in a more permanent way. It is really about health and quality of life! :clover:

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 10 Apr 2016, 09:49
by bordergirl
Bordergirl - Thank you for this post! After I stopped this WOE for some stupid reason AND stopped weighing myself (this after successfully losing about 17 lbs, reaching 132 lbs on ADF; I'll never make these mistakes again!!!), I gained back all I lost plus gained more, solely because I stopped fasting. So now, 2 years later, I'm at 159 lbs (and I'm only 5 ft 4!) and I'm back on ADF at age 47. I really don't know why I stopped fasting; I actually don't mind it most days and some days even look forward to it/feel good. The only non stupid thing I've done in this 'non ADF' 2 year time period is upping my exercise so my overall body shape, health, and fitness are decent.

So, reading your story, especially since your starting weight is so close to mine, is inspiring me in getting out of this new low ('high') and keeping it off pretty much like you do. I was wondering when you lost your weight, how often did you fast per week and did you count calories on non fast days? Also, for exercise, if you did, how often did you exercise, and on
fast days too? Finally, how old are you and how tall? Sorry for all the questions - any info is so much appreciated.[/quote]

Hi Sifrina! I apologize upfront for the length. Okay, my story: I am 5'4" tall and 67 years old (until May 21), basic pear shape with slender midriff. Reasonably athletic when young, I weighed about 133 lbs. or so until I got pregnant with my daughter at 38. I lost the pregnancy weight, and didn't put on more weight until stress from my teaching job and menopause (probably) made my weight go up to 185 or so (age 48). I slowly brought it down some, but not enough, over many years. My cholesterol and blood sugar were borderline. Not good! My husband says I had started to walk like a little old lady. I felt like a little old lady--round and not too steady on my feet. I broke a couple of bones in my foot and I remember thinking that if I weighed 50 lbs. less, it would be a lot easier!

I usually fast twice a week with the days varying according to what's happening in my life. A few times I've done ADF, for a week at a time. I've also tried 16:8, but it didn't fit me; also 6:1--too spread out. However 5:2, even if my fast days occasionally exceed 500 calories, seems to work best for me. I counted calories on fast days at first, but only occasionally now. The same thing for non-fast days. I weigh daily most times-- unless we are traveling, but not always at the same time and not always nude. I log it sometimes, other times not. In case you couldn't tell, I am not a very organized person. But somehow, this casual "keeping an eye on it" helps to keep me close without obsessing.

I generally eat 3 small meals each fast day, occasionally only 2. Breakfast (may be at 7am or 10am) is usually coffee and nuts with berries or apple and a little cheese or yogurt (very small). Lunch may be homemade veg soup or a salad and a little protein. Dinner is either a salad and some protein or soup and cheese. I drink a lot of black coffee and selzer water. I don't do many carbs--just feel better that way. A couple things I learned: I wouldn't die from being hungry and how great food tastes when you are really hungry! When occasionally I decide that a fast day is not working for me or something comes up and I really want to deviate, I just cancel the fast day and decide to do it the following day or just skip it until the next scheduled fast day. I don't feel like i failed--I just changed my plan! I love the adaptability of it! Overall, my appetite is much smaller. So my non-fast days are a little more liberal than my fast days. I would guess I eat in the 900 to 1200 calorie range most days. I really eat what I want, but what I want is pretty healthy--lots of veggies, lean meat, cheese, fruit,a little butter, the odd good bread. I love really good bread and the occasional chocolate treat, but only homemade (maybe not my home, but somebody's home :grin: ). I won't waste it on packaged junk. I do limit carbs because I can go overboard and then I don't feel well. Also, I had been pre-diabetic, and I don't want to go there! I enjoy an occasional glass of wine and the luxury of eating what I want.

My local Rec Department started Zumba classes, and I decided to give it a try. I loved it and went to 2 to 4 classes a week. Then, my daughter graduated from college, and she and I went to Europe for 5 weeks carrying our packs, taking trains and public transportation, staying in hostels and small hotels, eating like the regular Europeans, and walking and climbing stairs and walking some more. I would have died had it not been for Zumba! When we got back, I kept up the walking everywhere in our little town and going to as many Zumba classes as available--usually 4 per week. Amazingly, my body changed back to pretty slim with a waist and hipbones and everything. I applaud your dedication to exercise. In my opinion, it is a vital part of the whole. Exercise makes me more dedicated to healthy eating and vice versa!

I think it is great that you are doing this at 47--that many more years to enjoy your old/new body! :wink: I often think "Why did it take me so long to do this? It was so easy!" As my dad used to say, "Too soon old, too late smart." Oh well.
Experiment and find the best way for you. Best wishes

Re: There is Growing Evidence That Fasting Diets Really Work

PostPosted: 10 Apr 2016, 12:36
by Sifrina
Bordergirl, thank you so much!! This is incredibly helpful, as I get back on track.