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Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 11:57
Yes! I don't sleep badly every night but every now and then I'll have a phase of sleeping very badly indeed. The night before my wedding I didn't sleep AT ALL - despite taking sleeping tablets, and in the 3 nights following I averaged around 3 hours per night (and not from other bedroom activities!). Thankfully since the wedding it's been a lot better.

In a way sporadic insomnia is almost as annoying as sleeping badly every night because you can't plan for it - before you realise what's happening it's 1.30am and you haven't been to sleep yet and you can hear your husband BREATHING too loudly (he of course drops off immediately) and you've already poked him to make him turn away from you (so you can't hear it) lots of times. On our recent holiday I had alternate nights of sleeping well and sleeping badly. It is usually triggered by being in a different bed, something important (like getting married) that I have to do the next day - I start a new job on Monday and even though I'm not anxious about it I expect to sleep badly on sunday. Doesn't help that my husband works away during the week so I just get used to him being away and having a quiet cool bed to myself then he comes back with his raging core temperature and it's all hot and crowded and I can't shuffle about a bit to get comfy cos I'll wake him up and he's got to get up at 5 to drive down south again. He's back based from home soon though, so whilst I look forward to him being back I do wonder how my sleep will cope. Once I'm used to him being there all the time it should be fine.

It does kind of irritate me when my husband grumbles that he's not had enough sleep if he got like 6 hours - 'I need at least 9 hours to feel properly well' - when I have had to scrape by on 4 or less. It's one of those things that you just learn to get on with but makes you feel absolutely dreadful - I feel sick, tearful and generally weird and spaced out. Not to mention my spots get worse and I also get more hungry and sleep hasn't reset my hunger switches properly.

When I started 5:2 I slept like a log after a fast and felt like I'd slept really deeply and felt really groggy the next day. As time has gone on I've found it more difficult to sleep after a fast - the hunger overrides the tiredness - so I've started saving 70 cals for 2 small oatcakes to munch before bed as it really helps take the edge off the rumbles and I find oats very soothing too so it must help me sleep.

Gosh as usual I've written lots! It's one of those things that people that don't suffer from just do not understand - how truly awful it makes you feel. And nor will they ever truly understand the sheer bliss of waking up after a solid night's sleep following a bad night's sleep - the difference!
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 12:00
Well Congrats to Carol for getting to a healthy BMI! That must feel great!!!

Oh Janie, I'm sorry! That's no fun :-(

Greenmonster -- YES! We're twins!

I have to say, it really really helped a lot when we got a king sized bed. Hubby's core temp is also about 1000 degrees, so having a bit of space for that heat to dissipate is desperately needed. He also has firm instructions to face the window, although he snores. And I have a noise machine which helps.

Last month, on vacation, we had a bike tour scheduled for one day. I should have known and taken a sleeping pill the night before, but nope. I went on a bike tour with a grand total of 1 hour's sleep >.<
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 12:06
There are so many things that keep me from sleeping that sometimes I'm surprised when I do sleep, LOL!
The top 3 are my thyroid (palpitations, they can keep you awake for hours), stress (well, you know how that goes) and fasting (I was once woken up by the rumblings of my stomach).
When I have to wake up early I am doomed to not get enough sleep, which is why my doctor prescribed a mild tranquillizer that helps me on very stressful nights.
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 12:20
A lack of magnesium can be a cause of insomnia.
Magnesium is needed by the body to produce melatonin the hormone that gets triggered as the sun goes down, to make you sleepy.

I wouldn't recommend taking magnesium tablets as they can cause really bad diarrhea. But a soak in a bath with Epsom Salts in it works wonders, even if the soak is in the morning, the magnesium has been absorbed through the skin. If like me you don't have a bath (walk in shower), give yourself a foot soak with some Epsom salts added to the water.
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 12:53
I 'm often awake around 2 till 4 but usually drop back off just in time for the alarm to go off!
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 13:08
Yes, me too Janine. Usually after 2am and I can stay awake until 5 or even 6. I've just dropped off when the alarm wakes me at 6.30! I have got more relaxed about it over the years. I have never resorted to sleeping tablets, though I have used valerian. Sometimes I get up and have a hot milk, sit around in the lounge room a d read. I do not find I am tired during the day. Maybe I just don't need as much sleep as I think I do. But walking.... That's my solution. Only it's always bloody raining at the moment.
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 19:29
I haven't had any problems with diarrhoea and the magnesium tablets. I'm definitely going to give the Epsom salt baths a go though. Do you buy it from a chemist?
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 20:20
I have also tried the epsom salt baths (in the winter) and they are helpful for sleeping well and tummy bloat. I should do a foot bath since I haven't been bathing much in the heat of summer. I just get my epsom salt at Walmart off the shelf...over here it is usually near the pharmacy but not behind their counter.
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 20:44
I have variable insomnia!
Some nights, I can go 8 hours without even waking.

But then there's insomnia, type 1; go to bed feeling tired, but, as soon as the light goes off, I feel wide awake. I get up again. This is the worse type of insomnia, as it's usually accompanied by a snack/drink (usually alcoholic). I can go off after that and sleep well, so maybe it's caused by hunger.
Then there's insomnia type 2, which I had last night; off to sleep for about 3 hours, then up for a wee. Then up for another one... and another. I can be awake for 2/3 hours.
Then insomnia type 3, quite rare now, when I wake early in the morning.

I'm tired tonight and have done my first mini stint on the treadmill, so fingers crossed xx
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 22:34
My mother and sister both suffer from insomnia and are really light sleepers.

Me... so long as the room is reasonably quiet when I first go to bed, I'm asleep within 5 minutes. I can't read in bed since I conk out after a few pages. And I'll sleep through thunder, heavy rain... out cold!

I used to struggle with falling asleep - worrying over things that I needed to do. I learned to put them to one side; come up with an action plan for things I could do about them and that I could tackle in the morning and tell myself that there was nothing I could do at 2am. It did seem to help. The other thing that has helped a lot is physical exercise so that my body needs to sleep to recover. I do at least an hour of exercise a day (sometimes two or three) these days and I'm sure that helps me sleep.

Good luck to those trying the walking/treadmill!
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 22:39
I struggle to get to sleep & when stressed wake in the middle of the night. My house move was planned at 4 am.


I do the epsom salts bath now. Get them from the farm store, one for horses.

I have my own room, a fab bed, a blackout blind...
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 22:56
Julieathome wrote:
I wouldn't recommend taking magnesium tablets as they can cause really bad diarrhea.

Take them with Calcium tablets. They cancel each other out in the "movement" stakes!
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
13 Aug 2013, 23:23
:hugright: :hugleft: Wow! I feel so normal now :evilgrin: :clap:

I had no idea calcium caused movement issues :bugeyes:

Great thread! Thanks everyone!

(and side note - I'm so tired as to be nearly incoherent. Yeah. Just hoping to make it to 9pm so I'm not up at 3am)
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
14 Aug 2013, 18:05
Sleep had been rather elusive for me since entering my forties. I have tried everything and I walk a lot almost every day but that changes nothing. Fast days were even worse but the strange things is that I always feel great in the morning so I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that I just don't need as much sleep as I think I do. My husband is much the same and we often 'bump' into each other wandering around the house in the middle of the night whilst we each think the other is still in bed asleep. The number of times we have both almost attacked what we think is a, dressing gown attired, burglar is anyone's guess :grin:

Ballerina x :heart:
Re: Anyone else an insomniac?
21 Aug 2013, 14:27
Interesting article for us insomniacs:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/2 ... ep-better/

In summary - exercising today won't necessarily help an insomniac sleep better tonight. And poor sleep last night will make today's exercise a bit more torturous. However, regular exercise for over four months will *eventually* produce *some* insomnia relief.
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