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CateG wrote: Hi, new to fasting! (Just finished reading the Complete Guide to Fasting). Technically third day of fasting for me. Yesterday was brutal but today seems to be better. I can deal with hunger pangs, its the dull weird headache that was new for me. Don't drink that much in the way of caffeine as I cut that addiction years ago. I normally drink maybe one cup of tea a day with a splash of milk. I found that avoiding facebook with food posts is best so I don't sit and drool at my desk all day.
Hello CateG and welcome
I do sincerely hope that you do not mean your third consecutive day of fasting. If you do, then please get up right now, go to your fridge and eat some protein and fat. now. I'm not kidding. But I hope I'm mistaken.
If you are talking about *intermittent* fasting, where you are on a day, then eating normally for a day, then fasting for a day, please accept my apologies!! You are free to talk about intermittent fasting here.
Tracieknits wrote:CateG wrote: Hi, new to fasting! (Just finished reading the Complete Guide to Fasting). Technically third day of fasting for me. Yesterday was brutal but today seems to be better. I can deal with hunger pangs, its the dull weird headache that was new for me. Don't drink that much in the way of caffeine as I cut that addiction years ago. I normally drink maybe one cup of tea a day with a splash of milk. I found that avoiding facebook with food posts is best so I don't sit and drool at my desk all day.
Hello CateG and welcome
I do sincerely hope that you do not mean your third consecutive day of fasting. If you do, then please get up right now, go to your fridge and eat some protein and fat. now. I'm not kidding. But I hope I'm mistaken.
If you are talking about *intermittent* fasting, where you are on a day, then eating normally for a day, then fasting for a day, please accept my apologies!! You are free to talk about intermittent fasting here.
I was expecting and wondering when this was going to happen. *deleted*
I for one am 99.99% sure that she meant three days. You've been gone for a while TK (good times we hope!), and a rough count of newbies and others here seeking longer term, more effective fasts is growing.
We should either quickly revisit the now ancient 3-year old block on discussions of fasts longer than 36 hours, or ignore it and watch the membership go to zero even sooner.
To reiterate what I implied in a careful post the other day, Dr MM's original 5:2 is seriously showing its age. His experience with a single 3 day fast is an N=1 event that even he today might suggest needs to be revisited. It was excellent as an introductory step for its time and I will be forever grateful, but others have taken up the banner with N=1000 and shown excellent results.
I and a number of other long-time members have quietly experimented with other methodologies with considerably longer fasts and results easily match what's been offered. But, what about the science? It's there and easy to understand. And are there warnings for T2D, and for others medically challenged? Yes. Those are there too.
At a particularly raucous company team meeting a wise coworker once told me that the world needs boat-rockers. Otherwise how else would anyone know that their ship has gone aground?
I'm happy to rock this boat.
Dr M's original 5:2 worked for me, and still is, so I'm not interested in trialing longer fasts. I've got no idea what the newbies starting points, goals, previous experience with diets has been but to be honest I don't expect many to stick around for too long. I'm happy to be proven wrong.
If you guys want to get the rules changed, talk to @Moogie. I doubt she has the energy to deal with this issue right now, but she still owns the forum and it's not my place to just arbitrarily change the rules.
I will say that, having lived with someone suffering from anorexia nervosa, I want no part of a forum that encourages longer term fasting. If we take away that rule about 36 hours, that's a danger that the forum will head in that direction.
If you post encouraging people to fast for longer periods, and if those posts get flagged, they will get edited. Sorry, but those are the rules.
While I appreciate that some folks may want to, or even do, experiment with longer fasting I would prefer it not to be discussed here outside the context of research as covered in the science forum.
For reasons of covering my back legally, I cannot recommend or endorse longer term fasting without medical supervision/recommendation. I am not a doctor and it is not my place to say who it may or may not suit, or indeed harm.
Admittedly the line does blur a little on a 3 day fast if it is not at 0 calories, for example some fasters prefer to do consecutive fasts (5-600 calories or less) and of those some are 4:3ers.
For now at least, the rule stands.
It would be nice if others would respond with their thoughts in this otherwise buried thread.
And I will abide by Moogies decision.
One thing I shall have to do is stop maintaining a tracker on here. I don't want to or expect to lose more weight but what I do may result in a few lower days and be misleading and dishonest. I have updated my tracker weekly for over 3 years with the good, the bad and the ugly but from now on will only do a monthly maintenance summary.
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