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I would avoid any on fast days (not as filling, etc etc) but on non-fast days, have some when you feel like it. If you're already mostly filling up on your good protein, fats and veggies, having pasta once a week, or some rice or naan with your curry, isn't going to be bad for you.
Except yesterday, when the sourdough bread I had made became three slices instead of one
Yesterday a non fast day I had a slice of toast with poached eggs for lunch and I made potato rosti, for dinner.
approx carbs from my fitness pal-
Bread 18.5g carbs
Potato rosti 34g carbs - this is prob too low.
So that's not a lot of carbs but there are carbs in other foods eg salad, veg. It just depends how much you have. On Atkins your'e only allowed up to 20 g which on a daily basis is not much at all.
Maybe switch noodles in a stir fry for shredded cabbage, that's nice.
Lasagna sheets for Leeks. Tried that too.
Like already said if you see them as bad or forbidden then it just doesn't help. So have a bit now and then.
out of my life
However after pledging to this week try the courgette spaghetti which I did last night with a veggie sauce
and quorn mince
This was an amazing meal so filling and tasty it left me gobsmacked actually well my new pledge last night was to make all my future fastdays meat free in fact have decided to do back2back fasts because of that very reason and basically we don't know what we're capable of if we don't actually try in the first place and that's coming from someone who can know say we're never to old to try the changes in life. Sue
Of course you are right, if your primary way of life is some sort of fasting you do not have to do anything beyond fast. However while on our fasting journey, we can either want to speed up our weightless (hence 4:3 or ADF rather than 5:2 for example) or we get more interested in nutrition and start to experiment with adding other regimes into the mix. Hence some people count calories on their feed days, some cut their carbs.
Some people count carbs, I just take a look at the Atkins carbs ladder (look on their web site or look out for the Atkins books in charity shops) and try to eat mostly from the lower levels. You only cut down to 20 grams if you are doing Atkins induction which most Atkins dieters should only do for 2 weeks, you then add more carbs slowly until you stop losing weight.
The simplest way to begin is to cut down on sugary things and avoid white foods - bread, rice, pasta etc.
Fish + chips is the treat we can have no + then so don't beat yourself up about that keep up your 16:8 and try for at least one good fastday each week you can always pop a second in if you feel OK to do it or one good and cautious 20:4 that works for me ( or at least used to)
Take care Sue
My experience over Christmas, when we re at a rellie's house, made me feel quite poorly, as it was just so carb rich.
I no longer feel 'deprived' and know I CAN have pasta, bread or potatoes as an occasional treat.
But the beauty of this is that it is so flexible and what suits one, won't suit everybody and nobody's being dictatorial.
The Italian in me just would not allow it lol, plus it has not interfered with weight loss in the past or now , so there... what works for you is the key