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http://www.eatlowcarbhighfat.com/

Swedish guy who eats one meal a day and keeps that very low carb, reporting the "Skaldeman ratio" ( = grams fat / grams protein ) of his diet.

Interesting read, with pictures.

[Betsysgr8]

Very interesting. How many carbs are "allowed" with LCHF?

He talks of 80/18/2 so for 2000 calories or 10g of carbs. That's EU / UK carbs, not US.

Tommy is hard core ketogenic.

He has certainly succeeded in losing a lot of weight, but he must be very disciplined (or desperate) to only eat once a day. His meals look pretty tasty, if you love butter, but I would miss my salads and veg. His calories, however, are not excessive and I was under the impression that if you ate a ketogenic diet you could eat more calories?

[Betsysgr8]

Yeah, I noticed he was a bit hard core with it, lol. I think I'll just cut back on carbs but I'm still going to have a piece of fruit and such a day. His meals look ok but I like a bit more variety.

@ PhilT - I didn't know there was a difference between American carbs and U.K./European carbs?

[Betsysgr8]

I think the high fat keeps him more satiated for longer plus he is eating nearly a full day's meal in one sitting. He also has quite a bit of fat in his morning/afternoon coffee(s). I know I've been quite happy not eating anything after a very filling breakfast. Can't eat as big a breakfast or any meal for that matter, since starting 5:2.

I've done a bit of reading on LCHF and they seem to go for around 10% carb, 30% protein and the balance as fat. Best bet seems to be sites like MFS that give a daily and monthly percentage breakdown. I don't think I could cope with working it out for each meal like the purists!

Dhana, in the USA they add fibre into the carb count so you have to subtract it to get net carbs. Here in the UK our labels list fibre as a separate entity.

[Betsysgr8]

In the US the nutrition labels have total carbs then those are broken down into fiber and sugar totals.

I generally look at the label and if there isn't (IMO)enough fiber listed for the number of carbs and/or sugar then I won't buy it. I won't waste my calories on generally empty carbs.

I will splurge on the occasional cake or ice cream but I can't see eating a product that has high sugar content or added sugar where I don't think it was necessary for the recipe.

@ PhilT - I didn't know there was a difference between American carbs and U.K./European carbs?

yep, analytical differences and labelling differences.

UK/EU analyses for carbohydrates and for fibre and reports them completely separately on the label - fibre comes after fat for example.

USA ( and Canada I believe) measure fats and proteins and subtract from the dry ash free weight to get "Carbohydrates" by difference. They then analyse for fiber (sic) and put it under the Carbohydrates heading as a sub-heading.

So UK might say 3g carbohydrates, of which 2g sugar. Fats, Protein, 5g fibre.

US equivalent 8g carbohydrates of which 2g sugar, 5g fiber. Fats, Protein.

So you can see how confusion might arise - typically an American will be all "OMG you can't survive on that low a carb level you can't eat any vegetables and you'll get no fiber" when we won't understand what the hell they are on about.