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24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 07:46
Do you fast for 24 hours, for example 2pm - 2pm or for more (last mean on one day, full fast day and then eat the morning after that)?
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 08:13
I do the original 2 sleeps version, fasting from dinner the night before until my fast day dinner of 250-500 cals and then nothing until breakfast the next day. Often I find I'm not hungry until late morning the next day. Today however having fasted on 250 cals I'm hungry and ready for the hot cross bun that was teasing me yesterday!
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 08:25
Same as Moogie!
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 08:31
Ditto. Seems to me that if you often skip breakfast anyway, 2pm-2pm fasting is just having one meal (dinner) a bit smaller than usual, preceding the fast with an early lunch and following with a late lunch. If it works for you, great, but I don't think it's the real deal.
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 18:57
I'm also wondering about the 2pm - 2pm option. In the book, it says .."Try the two-to-two, fasting not from bedtime to bedtime, but from 2.00 pm until 2.00pm. After lunch on day one, eat sparingly until a late lunch the following day. That way, you lose weight as you sleep and no signle day feels uncomfortably deprived of food. It's a clever trick, but does require a modicum more concentration than the whole day option"

What I'm wondering is could you do 1pm to 1pm? So after you finish your normal lunch, you have 300 calories for dinner, & 300 calories for breakfast, and then, at 1pm the next day, you've finished your fast "day", and have a normal lunch again.
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 19:59
Paulg wrote: What I'm wondering is could you do 1pm to 1pm? So after you finish your normal lunch, you have 300 calories for dinner, & 300 calories for breakfast, and then, at 1pm the next day, you've finished your fast "day", and have a normal lunch again.


Sounds like a non-fast to me. You may have saved some calories at dinner, and maybe done more than usual for breakfast, if you then have a normal lunch and dinner where's the calorie deficit coming from ?
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 20:09
It is possible

so after you finish your normal lunch, you have 300 calories for dinner, & 300 calories for breakfast, and then, at 1pm the next day, you've finished your fast "day", and have a normal lunch again.

Day 1
Normal Breakfast, say 300
Normal lunch, say 600
Reduced dinner, 300
Total = 1200

Day 2
Breakfast, 300
Normal lunch, say 600
Normal dinner, say 1000
Total = 1900

If you do that twice a week that's 6200 for the 4 "fast days" and 3 x 2500 for the feed days = 13700. Compared to normal eating at 7 x 2500 = 17500. That's a calorie drop of 3800 which is about the same as 5 x 2500 + 2 x 600.

But you would need to count calories on 4 days of the week to ensure you don't go over the amounts suggested above. And you don't really get much of a fast so I expect you would not reap the extra benefits of really cutting calories. Plus you only really get 3 feast days :-(
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 20:10
Same as Moogie and Carorees - 2 sleeps, 36 hours :smile:
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 20:28
Me too, same as Suchard007, Carorees and Moogie :lol:
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 20:36
Hi Paul

Depends why you're doing it. If it's just for the health benefits, then 24 hours without food whenever you want to do it - or even 24 hours on <600 calories - should give you those benefits. It's what I do one day a week since I'm now in maintenance mode (on another day I do the complete <600 cal fast).

However, if what you're after is weight loss, then all the advice you've been given above applies.

Good luck!

B&W
Re: 24 hours or more?
05 Mar 2013, 22:23
Thanks for all the advice!
Re: 24 hours or more?
06 Mar 2013, 09:39
carorees wrote: It is possible

Day 1
Normal Breakfast, say 300
Normal lunch, say 600
Reduced dinner, 300
Total = 1200

Day 2
Breakfast, 300
Normal lunch, say 600
Normal dinner, say 1000
Total = 1900

If you do that twice a week that's 6200 for the 4 "fast days" and 3 x 2500 for the feed days = 13700. Compared to normal eating at 7 x 2500 = 17500. That's a calorie drop of 3800 which is about the same as 5 x 2500 + 2 x 600.


Hmm, there's a single reduction of 700 there, so two of them are 1400 drop for the week surely ?

The inconsistency arises from a "normal day" of 2500 vs your day 2 of 1900 - where are the other 600 saved ?
Re: 24 hours or more?
06 Mar 2013, 10:03
Day 1 saves 1300, day 2 saves 600 = 1900 x 2 per week = 3800 per week.

Based on a normal intake of 2500 per day for men.
Re: 24 hours or more?
11 Sep 2013, 13:05
Moogie wrote: I do the original 2 sleeps version, fasting from dinner the night before until my fast day dinner of 250-500 cals and then nothing until breakfast the next day. Often I find I'm not hungry until late morning the next day. Today however having fasted on 250 cals I'm hungry and ready for the hot cross bun that was teasing me yesterday!



I just realised i have got the original two sleeps wrong i think?
Have only done the two sleeps twice,and on both occasions, i didnt have my 500 cals til AFTER the two sleeps..
Soooooo....we can have our 500 cals before the second sleep..and have less than 500 if that suits better?

Can we save the cals til after the second sleep if not hungry,or does that send us into starvation mode?
Please excuse me! I still get all mixed up at times! Senior moments no doubt! X :wink:
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