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Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 14:10
Hello everybody. 56-year-old bloke in the room. I'm in for brain health, body repair mode and to try yet another method of shifting that unwanted 'belt' that afflicts many of us middle-aged fellas; the one that is not readily apparent unless it is specifically sought out.

Being a fairly slim bloke (albiet with the same very real problem as the one Michael Mosley had; the middle bit), I felt I should state first up, what I'm on here for.

My partner (also on here as a recent newbie) and me both started 5:2 at the same time. Yesterday we did our 4th week - or 8th fasting day. Still too early in my book, to perceive any great difference in how easy or difficult fast days are. Suffice it to say that I (we) still feel ravenous for most of the fasting day(s). But my, how that mundane routine, which was breakfast time, takes on a new meaning when one fasted the preceding day.

At present we both favour an early-ish breakast of about 200 calories and a late-ish dinner of about 300 calories on our fasting days. And in our experience lots of water or (say) healthy tea, really does help. It's early doors as far as major benefits are concerned just now, but we reckon our patience and persistence can only see health improvements at the very minimum. The underlying science is just too persuasive to look upon this venture in any other way . . .

Obviously we are all on here to enrich our quality of life, but as a parting shot (for now) I must just say: there is a thread of conversation on here somewhere, that talks of a book: The Hundred-Year-Old Man who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared, by Jonas Jonasson - is.gd/100YOM. In my humble opinion, this is another way in which one's life may be enriched. The tale is eccentric, Quixotic, heroic, epic, hilarious, benignly insane (major asset) and beautifully understated in its signature style. All this for 20 pence on Amazon for the Kindle edition. You are having a giraffe.

See you later, my admirable colleagues, here on two-and-a-half.
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 14:44
Bought that book around Xmas but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Like you say, for 20p on Kindle it's a gift. Mind you, it's joining about forty other unread books on my Kindle. Not to mention the unread dead tree books I've got stashed around the house that I could build an extension with.

As far as hunger goes, I think it's part and parcel of a diet based around fasting but you'll get used to it. I don't really eat on my fast days because eating makes me hungry but we're all different.
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 15:52
Hi man without gorm

I am guessing you are hoping that the fasting will bring some gorm with it being as it is supposed to improve your mental faculties? ;-)

Not that I've noticed any less of the WDICIH* effect associated with middle age! :lol:

I agree with Bob that eating small amounts just makes the hunger worse. I feel relatively little hunger on fast days because I don't eat until dinner time. You should give it a go sometime to see if it suits you.

Just reading the 100YOM now, it's great!



*Why Did I Come In Here?
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 16:08
Totally agree with DashingBob about the not eating on fast days, it just makes me hungry & I feel (rightly or wrongly) that In not eating at all on a fast day it's giving my body chance to do it's thing with regards to repairing itself. If only I could stop my stomach from complaining so loudly !! And will give the 100YOM a read, sounds good.
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 17:50
Thank you Newbie without gorm! I have just downloaded The Hundred-Year-Old Man who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared, by Jonas Jonasson onto my Kindle. The good thing is that, even if I hate it, it's only cost me 20p and I can stop reading it without any feelings of guilt! Bargain!

Back onto topic - I agree with the others, in that my husband & I both fast during the day and only have our 500c (600 in his case) for our evening meal. Well, actually we have about 350 (400) for dinner and then later in the evening have a low calorie dessert. It works for us and may be worth you giving it a try?

Anyway - must dash! I have a book to get stuck into!
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 19:51
The Hundred-Year-Old Man who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared, by Jonas Jonasson - agree,a great read!
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 20:22
Oh, you persuasive people, you. One with a lack of gorm is by necessity, impressionable and suggestible. So come Thursday I'll be fasting until dinner time, if I eat at all on the day.

These early days really seem as much to be about experimentation and adapting. And as THIS body is in the throes of coping with radical change, I might as well ask a little more of it, while it is in that purple patch of adaptability.

I'm off for some Pumpkin now . . .
Re: Newbie without gorm
18 Feb 2013, 20:30
Newbie without gorm I have also just downloaded The Hundred Year Old Man, thank you for recommending it.
I am another faster that waits until evening before eating because eating throughout the day just makes me more hungry!
Re: Newbie without gorm
19 Feb 2013, 20:28
hi man without gorm- welcome to the madhouse-lol!!!! thank you also for the brill suggestion- we are off to norway tomorrow to see the northern lights and I wasn't sure which book to take- and guess what- the 100yom is on pur book case, unread!!!! so here we go- into my back pack it goes and I will let you know when we come back what I think of it!!! Hope it goes well for you on thursday- did you find your pumpkin? Are you going to share your pumpkin receipe with us?- ursula
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 16:36
Isis wrote: Newbie without gorm I have also just downloaded The Hundred Year Old Man, thank you for recommending it.
I am another faster that waits until evening before eating because eating throughout the day just makes me more hungry!


Hello Isis,

Pumpkin, my recipe for happiness, is in fact my better half.

I am fasting today, until 19:00 or thereabouts. I've only had water so far today and it doesn't leave me feeling as hungry as having the early breakfast does. So it's looking like another convert to the ranks of the fast'until-dinner-time persuasion of two-and-a-halfers (5:2).

Aside from probably granting the bod more opportunity for the repair mode to kick-in, I also like the fact that I think of food a bit less because it's simply out of the equation until much later in the day.
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 16:43
ujs wrote: hi man without gorm- welcome to the madhouse-lol!!!! thank you also for the brill suggestion- we are off to norway tomorrow to see the northern lights and I wasn't sure which book to take- and guess what- the 100yom is on pur book case, unread!!!! so here we go- into my back pack it goes and I will let you know when we come back what I think of it!!! Hope it goes well for you on thursday- did you find your pumpkin? Are you going to share your pumpkin receipe with us?- ursula


Hello Ursula,

First off may I just say: "Darn it!" For I meant to reply to YOU about the (non) Pumpkin recipe and I went and replied to the post from Isis, above your post here.

Thanks for the 'welcome to the madhouse' sentiment. I didn't sign up for madness, but a little of that rare stuff certainly helps.

Running commentary on lobbing 100YOM into your Norway-bound rucksack.... magic!
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 16:47
DashingBob wrote: Bought that book around Xmas but haven't gotten around to reading it yet. Like you say, for 20p on Kindle it's a gift. Mind you, it's joining about forty other unread books on my Kindle. Not to mention the unread dead tree books I've got stashed around the house that I could build an extension with.

As far as hunger goes, I think it's part and parcel of a diet based around fasting but you'll get used to it. I don't really eat on my fast days because eating makes me hungry but we're all different.


Greetings DB,

Thanks for the info surrounding the glut of 'to read' books and the share wrt fasting. May I wish you success on this venture.
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 16:52
carorees wrote: Hi man without gorm

I am guessing you are hoping that the fasting will bring some gorm with it being as it is supposed to improve your mental faculties? ;-)

Not that I've noticed any less of the WDICIH* effect associated with middle age! :lol:

I agree with Bob that eating small amounts just makes the hunger worse. I feel relatively little hunger on fast days because I don't eat until dinner time. You should give it a go sometime to see if it suits you.

Just reading the 100YOM now, it's great!

*Why Did I Come In Here?



Hi Caroline,

Thanks for the breezy response to my maiden post (don't maiden posts feel a little odd, eh?).
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 17:06
shazzam wrote: Totally agree with DashingBob about the not eating on fast days, it just makes me hungry & I feel (rightly or wrongly) that In not eating at all on a fast day it's giving my body chance to do it's thing with regards to repairing itself. If only I could stop my stomach from complaining so loudly !! And will give the 100YOM a read, sounds good.


Thanks for the reply, Shazzam.

To be honest the proper fast on a fast day is probably a step too far for me personally. My trouble is that I'm skinny everywhere else, but nevertheless have to try 5:2 to finally shift that middle-aged man's curse; middle-aged spread (and middle is certainly the operative word).

Although today I am fasting through until 19:00 instead of taking anything at all apart from water until then.

Hmm, 100YOM. Strange phenomenon. A wee bit like 'Tom Sharpe goes global', but with sooo much more humility and more subtle shenanigans/mischief.
Re: Newbie without gorm
20 Feb 2013, 17:16
StowgateResident wrote: Thank you Newbie without gorm! I have just downloaded The Hundred-Year-Old Man who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared, by Jonas Jonasson onto my Kindle. The good thing is that, even if I hate it, it's only cost me 20p and I can stop reading it without any feelings of guilt! Bargain!

Back onto topic - I agree with the others, in that my husband & I both fast during the day and only have our 500c (600 in his case) for our evening meal. Well, actually we have about 350 (400) for dinner and then later in the evening have a low calorie dessert. It works for us and may be worth you giving it a try?

Anyway - must dash! I have a book to get stuck into!



Hi, and thanks for your reply.

Today I am taking only water until 19:00, at which point I'll be eating a 440 calorie meal, with the intention of making up my calories with fruit predominantly, but also with a couple of luxurious coffees, each with a thimble-full of frothed, semi-skimmed milk.

I must say, I'm finding it easier than I'd anticipated. Thanks, I imagine, to the clearer boundaries of eating vs. not eating during the course of the day.

Today is my 9th fasting day. What I've learned so far is chiefly that it serves me well; adapting and tweaking the regimen during these early times.
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