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Not sure where to post this article. The statement that made me think to post it here is "They found that patients who had contracted ME/CFS less than three years ago had significantly higher levels of cytokines that influence inflammation in tissues, and those sick for longer than three years showed dampened cytokine activity, which researchers said might be a sign of a prematurely aged immune system."

Intermittent Fasting is suspected to help with inflammation in the body, and thought 5:2er's with CFS might find this interesting.

http://www.ibtimes.com/scientists-claim ... 2?ft=61pb1

Thanks for posting that @O'Dell. It'll be such a relief if doctors and people in general will start to be more understanding and come up with proper treatment, other than psychological help.
Thank you

Thanks O'Dell x are you a sufferer too? Theres three or four of us who talk on this thread..
medical-conditions-f30/topic3890-540.html
Makes me mad when people say this is a psychological illness...such ignorance!
Walk a week in our shoes and see what they 'd say after experiencing the myriad of physical painful symptoms we endure day in day out.
I pray that fasting will help us all in the long run
Also that more medical help can be found,so we can get over this horrible illness and have our full lives back again
I' m currently trying a medicine called LDN... Three months there's some improvement .i.e.,i' m sleeping longer (but having more nightmares and bad dreams) and my thyroid results have improved ever so slightly. I' m giving it a six months trial x

Hi@O'Dell, thanks for posting! Hope you will drop in on the other thread and visit. I was treated for depression several years ago, and you know what, didn't get a bit healthier. thankfully, I had a good therapist that helped me learn to cope with the changes wrought by this illness, and didn't tell me it was all in my head.
There are some good people working on this now, and I have hope that soon we will at least be able to get rid of the psychological nonsense. Now if our N.I.H. would spend at least as much studying our illness as they do erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness, we would be off to a good start. hope to see you again soon. Phyl

I don't have CFS. I've just always been skeptical of doctors saying it's a psychological problem. I'm glad science is starting to catch up.

Seems to me that the history of medicine is replete with instances of "it's all in your head" whenever a diagnosis can't be found. Then, maybe years later, it's discovered that there's really a physical reason for the symptoms for which no test had previously been developed. Sorry to say, I can't think of examples at the moment, but I'm sure others have better memories for these details than I do.

Marybeth, this seems to be particularly true if the disease affects primarily or only women. It's shameful.

@Marybeth If I remember right, Lyme disease was like that for a time. Now Doctors know that there can be a chronic condition in some people after treatment.
@MaryAnn I agree. I see the same thing happening.

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Seems to me that the history of medicine is replete with instances of "it's all in your head" whenever a diagnosis can't be found. Then, maybe years later, it's discovered that there's really a physical reason for the symptoms for which no test had previously been developed. Sorry to say, I can't think of examples at the moment, but I'm sure others have better memories for these details than I do.

Irritable bowel syndrome is in this bracket I think. So true about it being more likely to be dismissed as psychosomatic if it affects women. IBS was said to affect women who suffer bad period pains worse because these women are, apparently, too sensitive to the sensations coming from their insides!

Yes my poor mum suffers with IBS, at least thats what we assume it is. Every time she goes to the doctors she just gets given Fibrogel or something similar. Its most frustrating how she's treated as depressed and so any physical problems must in some way relate to depression. Its shameful quite honestly.

Feel so sorry for your mum @nursebean tell her to ask GP for Colpermin AND mebeverine..work well together
Holland and B peppermint oil capsules help too..but need to get the ' enteric' ones as these capsules dont break until they get into the stomach..the ordinary pep oil caps break immediately you swallow them,and you just get a very minty throat and chest!
IBS has been the worst symptom of ME that me and DD have experienced
Fortunately its settled down for both of us but those pains were worse than childbirth..
And when i had them,i cdnt sit,stand or lie down..the only way i could get a little relief was by kneeling by my bed and leaning on the mattress til the painful spasms passed...usually took a few hours
What the heck could that have to do with being depressed? More a case of MAKING us depressed!