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@Ballerina weirdly today I checked my elbows which for years have had psoriasis patches on them. Since I started 5:2 they have disappeared. (The psoriasis not the elbows). Think it is because I have all but given up bread. There is a link to your gut with psoriasis and wheat. Is your hubby still eating a lot of bread. The other thing I found made my psoriasis worse was yellow cheese, so gave that up too.

Just thought I would share these little snippets

I'm usually affy cautious about anecdotal stuff, but went and checked my elbows anyway... Wow! You're maybe onto something there @gillymary, my scabby / scaly / rough / discoloured / unsightly elbows (I've never thought of it as psoriasis) are now smooth as a baby's bottom! Slightly pink still - but not the dark bruised looking underlying colour of yore. Yeah, wow!

Incidentally, I eat *lots* of yellow cheese, so you might find that without the wheat in the mix you could try bringing that back in without ill effect?

Maybe he can try different flours not wheat with some tips from FatDog's gleanings as she is currently working on some interesting recipes in making her bread rolls

@Rawkaren we both started taking the vit D about 6 weeks ago and I'd say we noticed the difference within 2 weeks. We both still have bad nights but before this EVERY night was a bad night now we get good sleep more nights than not. Muscle cramps have dropped by about 80% and restless leg syndrome seems to be a thing of the past so we shall keep our fingers crossed ( without cramps ) that this lasts,

Ballerina x

Thanks @ballerina. Come to think of it, my sleeping has improved lately too but I hadn't made the connection

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@ballerina what dose of vitamin D are you taking please?

@ballerina what dose of vitamin D are you taking please?

@carorees we are taking Boots own brand 'General Health' Vitamin D 25 ug, well it looks like a u but clearly is some sort of chemical symbol which does not feature on my keyboard. They are a one a day variety and I am still amazed at the good effect they are having on both of us. Hope this helps,

Ballerina x

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I've just bought some of the same strength so am hopeful. Magnesium seemed to help a bit, valerian doesn't seem to do much, nor melatonin. Low carb/fast days are the worst for insomnia so I find I need to stick around the 150g mark of carbs to have any hope of sleeping for more than 2 hours at a time.

I started to take Vit D too. Recently changed from just Vit D to Vit D3. Some sources think its the better option. Ballerina, the strange symbol is Greek mu (?sp). Its short for micrograms.

I srarted the Vit D as I haven't even managed to get out into the garden much this year. I can't really do much outside if theres no-one else in as I have a tendency to topple over and roll down the steps! The sore hands aren't conducive to garden work either and I get more pleasure from my crochet so, its about priorities.

I haven't found the Vit D does much for the cramps. I had better results from magnesium. It also helps my irregular heart beat. I'd been free of cramp until yesterday when I got it really badly in both thighs. It took ages to go and has left one leg very sore. I had stopped doing weights as its getting a bit scary lifting heavy tjings over my head with hands that tend to spontaneously let go of stuff and have gone back to yoga. Didn't think I'd over done it but the only other thing I've done differently is to increase my carbs a bit. I've pretty much lost hope on weight loss and I decided to just concentrate on keeping my BG down and I can do that provided I stay off the white carbs. Still doing 16:8 though.

Thanks Miffy for that, might try the other one. We both tried magnesium but it didn't seem to do anything which probably only goes to prove how different we all are. I hope things improve soon for you, it must be very frustrating for you to be so restricted.

Ballerina x

What sort of dose of magnesium did you take Ballerina? You could well need more than it says on the bottle. I take 700mg spread out through the day. You need to increase it in increments though as the optimium dose varies from person to person and an excess has a laxative effect! (Think old fashioned milk of magnesia!) Most of the off the shelf supplements are 300mg and will say one a day.

One of the newer theories regarding fibro is that we have an abnormality of the blood vessels within the muscles so don't get the proper exchange of oxgen/ waste products it does seem feasable when it comes to cramps and exercise. I will be taking the yoga very carefully after yesterdays cramp attack. It was fearsome!

Hi Miffy, I take H&B 260mg Magnesium so you are very probably right about the dosage. Hubs no longer takes the magnesium as he feels he is on enough drugs without filling himself full of supplements but the vit D has worked wonders for him. The only down side of better sleep for me is that I have very congested lungs so I struggle in the morning after a deep sleep with coughing and expectorating for about half an hour after getting up. I assume this is because I have not moved much in the night but it is a small price to pay for some decent sleep.

Hope you have a good day,

Ballerina x

Currently I take vitamin D first thing, then with brunch a fish oil capsule and a multi vit/mineral tablet, then with dinner a cranberry tab, a rosehip tab and a magnesium tab. Me a hypochondriac?
Yep, but also far healthier than before these things and 5/2 fasting.

Currently I take vitamin D first thing, then with brunch a fish oil capsule and a multi vit/mineral tablet, then with dinner a cranberry tab, a rosehip tab and a magnesium tab. Me a hypochondriac?
Yep, but also far healthier than before these things and 5/2 fasting.

I'm certainly a hypochondriac, but I often forget to take them (especially on fast days):

Vit D3. This is a plant based one at 5000iu's per capsule - so only 1 a day.
Liquid chlorophyll
Multi-vit and mineral
Maitake Beta-Glucan (old habit from when I used to travel alot as it boosts immunity and protects against colds etc). This is the thing I always take every day even if I don't bother with everything else because it works and I rarely get colds these days.
Ashwaganda from time to time.
Resveratrol
Milk thistle
Magnesium (at night) 280mg - more if I can't 'go'
Sometimes turmeric and glucosamine hydrochloride, although I don't take them so much now as my creaky joints have improved since starting this WOE.
I'm just about to start to take L-Glutathione to help with my increased training load.