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Today has been one typical example of that because yesterday, I had a meal at Morrisons' but although I did eat a bit more than normal yesterday, I didn't go over the top with that. Yet, I woke up this morning to find that my weight was now 72.2kg which is an increase of 2.7kg (a whole 6 pounds) from yesterday's value.

Overall, my weight at my official weekly weigh-ins on a Monday are consistently coming in at around 11 stone 5 pounds and so from that concept, I suppose that you could say that I'm not gaining weight over time even with those big weekend blowouts. However, I am finding that in order to maintain that weight, my other feeding days outside of the one fasting day which I have per week have to be low calorie days as results such as what I have had today continue to cause a lot of fear of my weight spiralling upwards if I don't have those controls in place on my other feeding days.

Sorry to hear that John, a 6lb gain in one day seems way too much, I don't know how true this is but the common belief is that to gain 1lb in fat you have to eat 3500 calories. That would work out at 21 thousand calories in one day!

As 6:1 is not working for you perhaps going back to 5:2 might be better at least for a while, or an extra half fast each week? Have you tried 16:8? It works for some people, or maybe combine 6:1 and 16:8? Experiment a little until your weight is more steady.

I hope you can soon find a way of eating that suits you, all the best.

[quote="carorees"]34D @Ballerina? Try 34F! Can't understand how I can be that size but take a size 12? .................................

I know exactly what you mean although I don't look anything like my size would indicate, quite neat little orbs really, certainly don't look like 34 D so this is another sizing thing I just don't get.

Ballerina x

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I just feel real sad that I don't have that same luxury of being able to have a big blowout and not gain any weight and I would even go as far as saying that this sometimes makes me feel a bit jealous because I also want to be in that same position and yet, I see so many people not gaining weight with a big blowout whilst I am always recording some quite massive weight gains with these big blowouts. <snip>

That in turn makes me feel very restricted in what I eat which is very sad, because this WOE was supposed to remove those feelings of fear, and of being over-restrictive in terms of what I am eating.

Firstly, please see my signature for an explanation of the V&P vary-fairy - that really is 4lbs that your weight can go up / down, for no apparent reason...

Then a question for you: do the "massive weight gains" come off again within a few days? If so, you really don't want to be worrying about the "gain" - in all probability it's water retention because your carb intake has increased (and carbs hold water). Certainly that's been my experience with "binges" (see my log) and is clearly shown on my tracker...

And, as was said up thread, you'd need an extra 3500 calories (approx) for a 1lb weight gain. If you've not had that excess, I'd chill

Today has been one typical example of that because yesterday, I had a meal at Morrisons' but although I did eat a bit more than normal yesterday, I didn't go over the top with that. Yet, I woke up this morning to find that my weight was now 72.2kg which is an increase of 2.7kg (a whole 6 pounds) from yesterday's value.

Overall, my weight at my official weekly weigh-ins on a Monday are consistently coming in at around 11 stone 5 pounds and so from that concept, I suppose that you could say that I'm not gaining weight over time even with those big weekend blowouts. However, I am finding that in order to maintain that weight, my other feeding days outside of the one fasting day which I have per week have to be low calorie days as results such as what I have had today continue to cause a lot of fear of my weight spiralling upwards if I don't have those controls in place on my other feeding days.

Sorry to hear that John, a 6lb gain in one day seems way too much, I don't know how true this is but the common belief is that to gain 1lb in fat you have to eat 3500 calories. That would work out at 21 thousand calories in one day!

As 6:1 is not working for you perhaps going back to 5:2 might be better at least for a while, or an extra half fast each week? Have you tried 16:8? It works for some people, or maybe combine 6:1 and 16:8? Experiment a little until your weight is more steady.

I hope you can soon find a way of eating that suits you, all the best.

A similar thing happened last week as well, but with a slightly smaller weight gain of just under four pounds. At that point in time, I ignored that and overate on the following day as well. That meant that my calorie intake was the same then as what it was on that day which saw me gain 4 pounds. Yet, the resulting weight gain was a lot smaller at no more than a pound. That to me is conclusive proof that these big weight gains are happening mostly as a result of water retention as the body demands back that water loss which it had experienced with fasting.

After that, the weight will continue to go up if I continue to overeat but since this will become increasingly due to the resulting increase in body fat, the rate of weight gain does slow down over time. In my case, that then allowed me to remain within maintenance limits at my following weekly weigh-in. That means that as long as my weight continues to remain within those limits at my weekly official weigh-ins, I cannot say that 6:1 isn't working and so, it is far too early to be making such a judgement on that.

I have tried 16:8 before which has worked well before on weekdays. However, trying to enforce that at weekends just ended up being an absolute disaster for me, because I ended up cramming in as much food as possible into that 8 hour window and as a result of that, the resulting weight gain ended up being even more massive. I would also like to try and avoid going back to 5:2 because more fasting results in greater levels of cortisol being produced which would not be good for me, given the recent issues which I have had with high blood pressure. Because of that, I think that it would be better to minimise the amount of fasting that I am doing in order to minimise the cortisol levels and thus, keep my blood pressure to a lower level.

It was therefore for that reason, that I switched to 6:1. What I should therefore be doing is realising that the weight which I get down to after each fasting day isn't my natural weight, and has resulted from my body losing a lot of water with that fast. Once I then start eating normally again, the body will then replenish those water supplies, thus resulting in a weight gain. During the last couple of weeks, I have been working towards avoiding those weight gains during the week, and even had some success with that which even resulted in me losing more weight as the week wore on.

However, that has been done by restricting my calorie intake on those subsequent feeding days which I am now realising, is proving to be counter-productive because the body will demand that lost water back again and by holding that off, that demand gets stronger over time, therefore resulting in even more overeating at weekends with even bigger weight gains. I'm therefore guessing that the right approach to take now will be to relax my eating habits a bit during the week after each fast (though obviously not to the extent of overeating) and allow my weight to slowly rise from its fasted level. That way, the resulting weight gains should be much smaller, with less of a desire to overeat at weekends. To be in the safe side, I will continue with my daily weigh-ins so that I can be ready to reduce my calorie intake on any given day as necessary. That can be done without necessarily taking in an extra fasting day and so, I don't feel that I need to return to 5:2 at least, for now.

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I just feel real sad that I don't have that same luxury of being able to have a big blowout and not gain any weight and I would even go as far as saying that this sometimes makes me feel a bit jealous because I also want to be in that same position and yet, I see so many people not gaining weight with a big blowout whilst I am always recording some quite massive weight gains with these big blowouts. <snip>

That in turn makes me feel very restricted in what I eat which is very sad, because this WOE was supposed to remove those feelings of fear, and of being over-restrictive in terms of what I am eating.

Firstly, please see my signature for an explanation of the V&P vary-fairy - that really is 4lbs that your weight can go up / down, for no apparent reason...

Then a question for you: do the "massive weight gains" come off again within a few days? If so, you really don't want to be worrying about the "gain" - in all probability it's water retention because your carb intake has increased (and carbs hold water). Certainly that's been my experience with "binges" (see my log) and is clearly shown on my tracker...

And, as was said up thread, you'd need an extra 3500 calories (approx) for a 1lb weight gain. If you've not had that excess, I'd chill

That question and my action plan in response to that are explained in the post which I have just submitted in response to the one by @coffetime

I am in from today and a bit earlier than I thought. Even have to put back a little weight on (1.4kgs to be exact) because right now I am in the underweight category (18.38 BMI) with 48.669 kgs for 1.62m

Will see about the maintenance plan in the next few days

Welcome and well done!

I read your story on your other thread - what a fantastic achievement.