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Had a terrific fast yesterday. My weight loss progress has been good. I am working out and everything seems grand. I rarely eat any of the white stuff anymore. Today for lunch I just had to have a tomato sandwich. Ouch my stomach is blowing up! I should have known better. I would not say that I am gluten intolerant but there is something about bread that causes my stomach to grow! What's a girl to do?

Clairemarie have you tried a sourdough or one made from spelt flour? They are supposed to be much better from the 'belly bloat' point of view I believe.

Silverdarling I do like sourdough bread but have not had it in a long time. Time to try it again. Thanks so much.

I second what Silverdarling said, try sourdough, much easier on the stomach, and much nicer too. But double check its real sourdough, commercially produced ones are often made with yeast so not a true sourdough.

Winoclock...do you think I'm allergic to yeast?

Not necessarily. I think some of the problems people are having with bread is all the extras that you get in a loaf brought from the supermarket. When I hear that our major supermarkets are selling bread they get from OS that can be up to 6 months old then it makes me wonder how they make it.
So a yeast bread bought from a artisan baker, or made at home could be just fine. If not it would be worth trying sourdough as the process is a bit different and kinder to the stomach if you have problems.
Having said all that Im no expert, just an interested observer and home baker. Also I can eat any bread no probs just chose to make my own.

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@clairemarie you have my deepest sympathy!

If you make your own bread you could try nut, gram flour (aka chickpea or besan), or soya - I'm heavily low-carbing just now so conventional bread is off the menu and I have experimented with all three. Rice flour might be another one for you to try. It's really not difficult (sometimes messy, yes) and I am finding it great fun!

These are the low-carb / gluten-free bread links I've picked up so far - I've described my experiences with the ones that I have tried in my journal on here progress-f4/topic6427.html .


http://yourlighterside.com/2009/05/glut ... sie-rolls/
http://glutenfreegirl.com/2012/07/how-t ... flour-mix/
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads ... sicfoc.htm
http://www.blogilates.com/recipe-index/no-carb-bread
http://www.food.com/recipe/world-famous ... read-60594
http://www.lowcarbsosimple.com/1-2-3-bread/
http://tastykitchen.com/recipes/special ... arb-bread/
http://www.lowcarbsosimple.com/simple-a ... arb-bread/
http://www.foodiefiasco.com/low-carb-sandwich-thins/
http://www.foodiefiasco.com/easly-low-c ... ner-rolls/
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show ... ead-recipe
http://thinandthinner.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... bread.html
http://ginnyslowcarbkitchen.blogspot.co ... mment-form
http://lowcarblayla.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Bread
http://accordingtojolene.blogspot.ca/20 ... n-eat.html
http://mariahealth.blogspot.ca/2012/07/ ... anini.html
http://mariahealth.blogspot.ca/search?q ... &x=10&y=14
http://low-carb-support.com/low-carb-gluten-free-bread/
http://lowcarbnotnocarb.wordpress.com/2 ... -possible/
http://www.lifeasaplate.com/2010/12/16/ ... ry-of-man/
http://www.lifeasaplate.com/2011/12/15/ ... ame-bread/
http://jeanetteshealthyliving.com/2013/ ... flour.html
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/6609/soy-flour
http://www.livestrong.com/article/34420 ... b-cooking/
http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-so ... ead-169513
http://hungrygirls.com.au/wordpress/201 ... pea-bread/
http://www.instructables.com/id/easy-flat-bread-1/
http://www.food.com/recipe/low-carb-flat-bread-381460
http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lowca ... illas.html
http://talistomatoes.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... cakes.html
http://indianfood.about.com/od/ricerecipes/r/dosa.htm
http://www.manjulaskitchen.com/2007/03/ ... ian-bread/
http://www.awesomecuisine.com/recipes/4 ... -roti.html
http://www.my-indian-food.com/RotiRecipe.html
http://www.indiacurry.com/weightlossrec ... hapati.htm
http://www.food.com/recipe/soya-flour-roti-393946
http://www.infobarrel.com/A_Nice_And_Si ... ati_Recipe
http://www.mamtaskitchen.com/recipe_dis ... p?id=10101
http://www.livestrong.com/article/54710 ... microwave/
http://snapguide.com/guides/make-lchf-oopsie-bread/
http://kitchenoperas.com/2011/02/09/glu ... a-chapati/
http://cookingcaveman.tumblr.com/post/2 ... rlic-bread

I was tested for Coeliac disease but was luckily negative. However too much whole grain bread makes me bloat. I've found sourdough and/or rye is kinder to my stomach.

Fatdog or should I say Skinnydog atBMI 25! I will study this tomorrow. Thank you so much.

Chook, I think I will try the sourdough or rye if I can find a good source. I think wineoclock is right about all the preservative ingredients in store bought.

I bake my own (healthier?) bread and it's hard not overindulge, but lately it's getting better and better. I am able to withstand the temptation in spite of the bread baking aromas through the house.

I have a long history/ battle with bread as I am inclined to love it too. Without a word of a lie I lost 7kg in 2 weeks when I stopped eating standard bread from the supermarket. It clearly wasn't fat but water. My naturopath brother told me at the time that we retain water if we are eating something which is toxic to us (the water dilutes the toxins). Don't know if that is true but made some sense. Anyways since that day I battled with bread for several years. I 100% agree with the other posters that REAL sourdough is the way forward in terms of any yeast intolerances. I still don't eat much tho' because having it in the house means I eat too much and put on weight. A treat for me is sourdough toast in a café and that's that. I eat rice crackers if I want a sandwich type snack. Maybe it is the hunter in me! (a reference to the hunter farmer diet) It took me a while to get over my reliance upon bread and now I don't really think about it. Eating bread seems a default setting in our culture.

Hmmm, toad, that may be because it is SOOO yummy!
I must say rice biscuits give me indigestion if I eat more than one.
Oh what a complicated lot we are!

They say that if they had to put the ingredients on the packet for supermarket bread, there'd be no room left on the label.

Make your own sourdough, it's easy, minimal kneading and very cheap. I even grind up spelt now to make my own flour but that was an accident, bought the grain by mistake!

Google the Real Bread Campaign.

IMHO sourdough is better, particularly home baked. Some recipe books have a 'sourdough' loaf but with a yeast sponge. Didn't know some commercial bakers did the same. Naughty.

Andrew Whitley's book, 'Bread Matters' contains a list of all the 'extras' in supermarket bread, scary. Coeliac probably didn't exist before such bread was designed.

For a friend I baked a banana loaf made with rice flour, tasted good.