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[Moogie]

I feel the need to be flogged publically! Or at least to make a confession after this weekend's dreadful feeding behaviour.

I've not lost much since I reached my first goal and to be honest haven't really minded just being stable for a while. However I'm well aware that I've not continued to lose because I'm eating too much on my feed days. It's not all bad food, don't get me wrong - just too many calories. I've not been gaining, and I guess I could say that if I were 4-5kg lighter I'd be more than happy to maintain in this fashion.

But this weekend I've really let myself down. It's been 4 feed days in a row due to changed fasts last week, and what with social events and a total, inexplicable lack of self control I have eaten so much this weekend I feel sure I must have regained all 3.5 stone. Well, okay not quite that bad but I feel I've done myself no favours and unless I declare my poor behaviour publically I may just go on like this.

I guess we all get it once in a while - falling off the wagon. This really was back to my old ways for a few days there - stupid amount of takeaway ordered with friends, plus too many 'nibbles' bought in which lasted all weekend. I'd done some baking with a friend last week to help her out and had cake here 'needing' to be eaten (hubby won't eat it). Did I put it in the freezer in handy one-off slices? No I did not. I ate it. I ate the giant cookies. I ate leftover pizza. I ate chocolate, crisps and all sorts of junk besides. Why?!
Yesterday I thought I'd do a half fast to try to make up for it and yet gave in and continued with the cookies & cake. I did have a 500 cal dinner loaded with veg but everything else must have taken me over TDEE.

I don't know why I did it. Part of me just really wanted a blow out I guess. In the past this might have made me drop any diet I was on and just get fat again. Not this time.

It's frustrating that we have a birthday dinner to attend tomorrow - it's been a bad few weeks in terms of social events, a lot of eating out and takeaways, family feasts, baking etc. I'd like to have a few weeks before Christmas where I don't have any of these obligations and don't get co-erced into having a 3 course meal or getting a taste for all the bad stuff again but at the moment it doesn't look like it's going to happen as we have another meal out next week. I feel like I'm making excuses though, which is bad. I should be able to control what I have on a meal out and then continue as normal the next day.

I'm not gaining, but I'm not losing. This has to stop.

I hereby reaffirm my commitment to lose these last 4-5kg through fasting and eating better on my feed days (as I had been previously). I don't expect to lose it by Christmas but I would like to do so by my Wedding anniversary at the end of April.

If I have to get Wii fit out to let it shout at me, I will!

Thanks for letting me vent guys, sorry this was a bit of a long one. I'm not here looking for sympathy or for you to justify my actions. I just need to admit to what I've done and commit to doing better. Last night I found myself in the kitchen about to 'sneak' a piece of cake like I was being naughty. If nothing else I realised this mentality only leads to secret eating and sabotaging myself. I therefore ate the slice in front of my husband to not go down that road(!). At least the cake is gone now.

Onwards and downwards. Maybe a liquid fast today? Or just chalk it up to experience, resign myself to a possibly higher number on the scales this week and let it come back down gradually?

Sounds like the sugar monster has taken you prisoner again. I think a few of us have had a blow out in the last few weeks. Takes about a week to 'recover' and get back into the swing, but you know will. Besides, you are our 5:2 poster child so don't let us down now! Thanks for venting, makes me feel better about my own binges!

[carorees]

Oh Moogie, don't beat yourself up!! Really. A blow out does no harm, and in fact does some good - as long as it is not a regular thing. I've noticed that weightloss speeds up after a blow out. (I put on 1kg during my holiday but since getting back have dropped 1.7kg in a week which is faster than I was losing before going away.) If you get back on the wagon today, as you have promised, I'll bet that instead of the blow out being a disaster it will actually result in a boost to your weightloss.

As you've said many times before, this WOE is for life and if one can't have the occasional mega-feast, that is not living!

So, my advice is, just carry on as usual with fasting and look back fondly on the great time you had with the take outs and all and how much fun it was.

Hugs and lots of love

They say confession is good for the soul. If nothing else being honest with yourself helps keep your eye on your goal and what you are doing to help or hinder yourself in attaining that goal. Moogie, you have amazing results to date and regardless of how much you have overeaten these last few days you have the knowledge and tools to get yourself back on track.

If it was me I would just chalk the last few days up to experience and focus on my next fast day.

I don't know what to say! A blip! Just a bit of a blow out. You'll soon get back on track and it will all be ok. So, give yourself a break.

Don't feel so down about this as you've done a fantastic job losing so much, setting up this forum and thereby helping us all. I think you, and probably all of us, need a pre-Christmas strategy.

For those in the northern hemisphere it's getting colder so comfort food is what you'd like. Make some soups ahead, freeze them in portions so less temptations, and try to have roasts and other high calorie meals (so tempting!) on the other five days. Consider looking at a meal/social event calendar and plan ahead. If you know you are going to have several events in upcoming weeks plan your fasts around them. Don't give in on those two days!

For us in the Southern Hemisphere summer should be here soon, which means lots of barbeques, sparkling wine, fish and chips on the beach, ice cream, etc so similar scheduling required in the lead up to Christmas. I am doubtful whether I'll reach my Christmas club target but too many weeks still to go to make that call.

Not sure if my rambling helped but I hope you know that you should not feel so down on yourself. Big hug!!

You might find that your body is so confused by all the extra food that when you do start the "diet" again you start to loose those last few kilos quicker than you would have done otherwise. You are obviously a scientist, so stop beating yourself up and think of it as an experiment.You have done brilliantly so far, and are an inspiration to us all. Thank you so much.

Autumn Feed Syndrome? Completed.
Back to the good stuff? No probs
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Moogie you are not doing anything that I'm sure myself & many others included have not done. We are human & have social lives & continuously sticking to watching what we are eating gets too much sometimes. The best thing is you have recognised what happened & the marvellous thing about 5:2ing is that it enables us to get back on track more easily than other diets have. So enjoy your socialising try & fit in an extra fast day when you can or 16:8 on other days because you have done so well & are a wonderful example to us all.

[Moogie]

Thanks for the encouragement folks I'm fasting today and toying with a liquid fast though I'll see how I feel come dinnertime. Maybe I'll have a nice veggie ratatouille and have a couple of eggs on the side instead of wedges Any other thoughts on what might go with a ratatouille other than couscous?

I know I'll get back on track, but I couldn't just let myself eat all that junk and not 'fess up!

I think what I really need to be careful of is avoiding the scales - that always seems to be the beginning of my downfall, being afraid to see the numbers jump upwards... and I know where that got me last time.

I'm back on the wagon today and I hope Caro's right that this blowout might just confuse my body into shifting a bit more weight! I guess it doesn't help that I was poorly last week either and craving comfort food.

Thanks all, it's helped to get all that off my chest. I'll hop on the scales in the morning and see how much damage, if any, I did. I'm pretty sure I easily ate enough to regain a pound, but what's a temporarily pound out of 48 gone forever?

hi Moogie!!

awww, we are human after all! you didn't gain which has to be a good thing, and also this time of year has a lot to do with it because ox xmas and parties etc..got some coming up too and honestly don't think i'll go to all lol! you are allowed to "fall off" the wagon, we all do, god knows I eat too much chocolate on feed days... am sure you would be the first to say" that's the beauty of this wol, you can always dust off and start again and know that it will work!"
so no flogging from me Moogie, just a few words of synpathie lol, I understand fully as am sure a lot of fasters on here will too!!
I don't know about liquid fast as I have no experience of it but I would just put it down to experience and move on from it
xxx

Ah, Moogie you are human therefore just as vulnerable as the rest of us, joke, honest! I agree with the others who have said that a massive blow out just might kick start some weight loss for you so panic not dear Moogie, you know this will not last and as you so rightly said, in the past it would have been the end of another diet but look how changed we all are. This is not the end, just a little blip and you are very aware that is what it is, how good is that?

As a last resort there is some wet fish hanging around desperate to whack you round the head so don't give it the opportunity,

Ballerina x

A minor aberration, we all have 'em. What's great is that we have this place to confess. And you were very right to eat the cake in front of your OH. One of my problems is that I live alone and it's very easy to eat calorie laden stuff if nobody can see you. They didn't see it, it didn't happen.
Tomorrow is another day. Put it behind you (but not literally) and resume normal operations.

Hi moogie well we all get day's /weeks like that.
Put it behind you forget it pull yourself together and get back on board. Because we need our "leader" to carry on giving us the inspiration we've come to expect.
My thought's are that the blow-out would have done you good and if you have a good and very cautious week well the scales and tape measure will be your best friend
Sue.

Dear Moogie, I admire you for 'fessing up here for all to see, that would have taken guts. But that's why this forum is so wonderful, we know the support is there if and when we need it, and as we're all only human, there are times when we stuff up. I have no doubt this will only be a small bump on your road and those last few kilos will have been scared into submission. Chin up and onwards!