The FastDay Forum

As long as you're moving you are winning @rawkaren, running is for water ...
I tried to peek at your new blog but got confused by log in things, um, help?
My last fast of 2015 went well yesterday, I've found I need at least 2 days of normal eating between fast days to keep 'bio balance', perhaps due to age.
Keep up the good work and here's to a fit and fabulous 2016 x

As long as you're moving you are winning @rawkaren, running is for water ...
I tried to peek at your new blog but got confused by log in things, um, help?
My last fast of 2015 went well yesterday, I've found I need at least 2 days of normal eating between fast days to keep 'bio balance', perhaps due to age.
Keep up the good work and here's to a fit and fabulous 2016 x

Thanks! Try it now @azureblue. If you can't get in then, PM me and I will send you an invite to your email.

Thank you @rawkaren, that works perfectly and very interesting it is too.
Getting enough protein each day has been a problem for me too and so I am experimenting with different protein drinks, Upbeat mango is lovely!

[Moogie]

Everyone on this thread is part of the Old Crowd (no, not that kind of old), and it's great to see all of you, especially @Moogie.
I've slipped a bit myself, and am trying, as I've said elsewhere, to do 5:2 in earnest! I don't know why it was so easy in 2014, and then became hard in 2015. But...time for a new year and a new outlook .

Life's been a bit mad over the last year I have to say. Without meaning to overplay it, working two jobs while still recovering from the embolism has been really hard, especially as one of the jobs alternates year-on year-off in terms of how much work I get. Last year was one of the super-busy years. Hopefully this year will be less demanding!

I know how it feels, @wendyjane, I've slipped too. I couldn't easily fast on the warfarin as they struggled to keep my levels stable. After I changed to a different med just over a year ago, I tried to fast again and simply couldn't do it. I suffer terribly with fatigue since the PE and am still undergoing tests at the hospital on a fairly regular basis. Without food I seem to totally flag, even with my lovely new B vitamin complex which has been taking the edge of the fatigue. I stopped fasting most of last year, trying just to eat real food and less of it, but still regained weight. The calories just don't add up. I don't know if it's the contraceptive implant, the medication I'm on or an underlying condition contributing to it.

I suspect a thyroid problem personally, it runs in my family and at least 5 doctors over the years have suggested it and tested me for it. They're now testing for auto-immune hypothyroid. If that comes up blank I may be referred to a CFS specialist. It's so frustrating and I feel like a total fraud here, advocating fasting but seemingly unable to do it at the moment and pretty much back where I started, weight-wise. I'm totally sure that were it not for my PE I would still be maintaining at this point.

I'm now trying 16:8 but my cognitive impairment seems to return with it, even by the time I have lunch (breakfast!) I'm not quite right. I'll persevere and hope my body adapts. I don't feel human.

Sorry, I went on a bit there! It may all sound a bit blue, but I'm pretty chipper for the most part, if rather frustrated.

Let's hope 2016 brings a bright new future for us all eh?

Big hugs to you @Moogie, you've had such a lot to put up with, it's really time Fate gave you a break
:0@
As you say, eating real food and knowing your own body's needs and timings is crucial. Certainly sounds thyroid connected, perhaps thrown by peri-menopause? Tests don't always show it up, did they specify T4?
@carorees will know more :0)
I hope your cats are keeping you company, how are they doing?
Take care m'dear x

[Moogie]

Big hugs to you @Moogie, you've had such a lot to put up with, it's really time Fate gave you a break
:0@
As you say, eating real food and knowing your own body's needs and timings is crucial. Certainly sounds thyroid connected, perhaps thrown by peri-menopause? Tests don't always show it up, did they specify T4?
@carorees will know more :0)
I hope your cats are keeping you company, how are they doing?
Take care m'dear x

Thanks lovely seems there's no rest for the wicked!
I am currently pinned down by one of the cats (two up until I was so rude as to try to use my tablet!) so can't check my thyroid results. I don't think I have the latest ones (June last year) which were just described as 'normal' (my aunt and cousin were also 'normal', but riverbed turned out to be autoimmune) but off the top of my head the ones prior (Dec 2013, just before the PE) were only TSH and T4. TSH at 2.1 or 2.2 I think and T4 at 16... or the other way around, I haven't committed to memory what the reference values are! I may end up getting a full screen done privately as I gather T3 and reverse T4 are important in diagnosing too. I can tick so many things off the list of hypo symptoms. Then again, much of that can be to do with high homocysteine too, I'm waiting for my latest result on that. Then to confound matters I've read that hypo can cause high homocysteine!
I would like to think perimenopause is some way off yet, I'll be 35 this year! But, I did hit puberty at 9 so maybe it will come early.

The cats are all well thanks, a constant source of delight and company. Got a hankering for another, but if I got one every time the mood took me I'd have dozens

Don't feel bad about having regained, you're among friends here. We're not going to judge, we'll just support and encourage. You're not alone love, my wardrobe is full of 8-12s which no longer fit. I got rid of all my big clothes and now I wish I hadn't. Life eh?

Really feeling for you, @Moogie. You are in a tough position and should definitely go easy on yourself. You are not a fraud at all, as we all know (MM for sure) that taking on any sort of fasting regimen is contingent on your health status. Your health is indicating that you shouldn't be fasting now. Period. But do stick around - lots of folks here needing the forum for support. You can do that, plus talk to those of us who are doing okay, but just really like to chat...

age 9! How ridiculous is that? What evolution-controlling clown out there thinks a 9 year old should be procreating??? One of my kids was 11. She probably weighed 75 pounds, was rail-skinny, and would have died if she had to give birth at that age. Honestly!

[Moogie]

age 9! How ridiculous is that? What evolution-controlling clown out there thinks a 9 year old should be procreating??? One of my kids was 11. She probably weighed 75 pounds, was rail-skinny, and would have died if she had to give birth at that age. Honestly!

I know! I didn't even know where babies came from at that point - we hadn't had sex ed in school yet and I didn't know what a period was.

I guess 9 year old cavegirls were made of sterner stuff than modern 9 year olds. They were probably considered middle aged by then, lol. Honestly I have no idea how long cavepeople lived.

[carieoates]

Great to see your smiley face Moogs@Moogie

Hi @Moogie and sorry to hear you've bean struggling so much lately. I can very much sympathise with you and send you my best Bean hugs xx
I must say that although I did very well with fasting (especially ADF) I don't think it was a good thing for me to do with my ME. I have bean taking Vitamin D supplements which I think have helped tremendously. Also, I am currently heating healthily with Slimming World and am now the lowest I've bean in a few years. I feel so much better for it too. I've feel guilty for coming on here but I miss chatting with you guys - and I'm sure I'll get into the fasting system somewhere down the line.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is don't be so hard on yourself and don't worry about fasting.
Just thought I'd say hello to everyone else on here too. Its bean too long!! Hope you're all doing well
Bean xxxx

As I too returned some weeks ago, with too much flab having over the waistline and size 44 (European) in tops was too tight. I confess, I'm not so worried about my health as I am of my appearance
So Welcome Back Rawkaren!! Hope we can share our new successes week by week