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Tracieknits wrote: So other than fasting 17-20 hours a day, how different are your eating habits now? What are the changes you have made that you think have been the most beneficial? or is it mostly about the fasting?

I know you have been a big advocate for low carb, so just how much dessert do you eat now? Do you miss it?


I don't think that my eating has changed all that much apart from the fasting time, but maybe you will think differently...here's a sample of what I was eating on non-fast days right at the start of my 5:2 journey (so represents what I used to eat every day beforehand) and what I eat these days, taken from my calorie count records (though the 'now' list is not that up to date as I have pretty much stopped logging for the last 8 months or so):

Before:
Breakfast: Granola and yoghurt (500 cal)
10 am: coffee and carrot cake (400 cal)
Lunch: Soup, bread and butter and an apple (250 cal)
Pre dinner snack: pistachios and a glass of red wine (300 cal)
Dinner: Sausages, mashed potato, peas and ratatouille, followed by rhubarb and custard ( 1000 cal)
Total: 2450 cal, carbs 320, fat 70, protein 60.

Now:
Breakfast: black coffee
Lunch: boiled egg plus 1 slice bread and butter, followed by a couple of squares of very dark chocolate (500 cal)
Predinner snack: salted almonds and a glass of red wine (300 cal)
Dinner: Shepherds pie with broccoli followed by a small piece of chocolate brownie (600 cal)
Total: 1400 cal, carbs 100g, fat 75g, protein 60.

It seems to me that the missing of breakfast and morning snack has resulted in the biggest change, cutting out nearly 1000 cal and a load of carbs. I would say though that I have halved my portion sizes of starchy foods, often not bothering with any potatoes if there is enough veg, and generally if we have a pasta dish I would swap half of the pasta for a side dish of veg, and my portion sizes generally have decreased. I eat dessert a lot less often these days, especially after dinner because what used to happen was that we would have the main course and then sit down in front of the TV and a couple of hours later say "do you fancy some dessert?". Now my eating window has closed by that point so I don't have any and this means that my OH also doesn't have any either (he feels guilty eating when I am not :-)). My OH has also stopped having a high carb breakfast of granola and now has full fat plain yoghurt on its own or with some berries and perhaps some cheese afterwards, and of course no morning snacks either as I'm not having any. He doesn't need to lose weight, but he has found that his skin which had a tendency to flare up with a dermatitis type problem is now clear and his breathing is better. I don't miss the desserts because I do still have them sometimes (like the sample above)

I do think that having too many carbs are a big problem for people who have weight problems and probably also for those who do not. Whether I have a low carb diet is debatable as the definition of low carb is open to debate with some studies claiming that a daily amount of 150g carbs is low carb while others say that only when carbs are as low as 50g a day can the diet be called low carb. As you can see my protein and fat intake seems to have hardly changed.

Hope that helps!
Thanks so much!! Yes, that's two very different pictures, isn't it? I think I can commit to low carb if the definition is 150g. I have tried shaving down the carbs to 50g and that tends to end very badly for me, usually with a bit of a sugar binge.

I really appreciate your sharing this sample menu. It's nice to have the reinforcement that we need to make drastic changes if we want to have drastic changes, like lose and maintain that much weight.
@Carorees aw many congratulations to you! :victory: I hope you are celebrating in a special way. And a big thanks from me too for all your support and help on our journeys. All the best for the year ahead. How exciting!
Impressive achievement, Caroline. If you look at my tracker you'll see a much different (less-inspiring) story... ;-)

I have no trouble not eating breakfast, or even skipping lunch. My problem with something like 16:8 is shutting the eating window soon after the evening meal, and not continually snacking/dessert-ing between about 8:00 p.m. and bedtime. Did you have any problems initially with that time of the day, and have any story to tell about how you overcame it?

carorees wrote: Now:
Breakfast: black coffee
Lunch: boiled egg plus 1 slice bread and butter, followed by a couple of squares of very dark chocolate (500 cal)
Predinner snack: salted almonds and a glass of red wine (300 cal)
Dinner: Shepherds pie with broccoli followed by a small piece of chocolate brownie (600 cal)
Total: 1400 cal, carbs 100g, fat 75g, protein 60.


That's interesting -- I would think that at 1400 calories you would still be losing weight, that your TDEE would be at least in the 1600-1800 range depending on your activity. Do you find you need to stay in the 1400 cal/day range to maintain your weight? I read somewhere that people who lose a lot of weight, after they hit their weight goal, bounce back so quickly because their metabolism drops like a rock, their TDEE significantly (200-400 cal) lower than an average person given a specific height/weight/age combination, which is a cruel trick if true... Thoughts?
Very well done Caro!
You must feel so pleased with all the massive positive changes you've brought about,purely thru all your own efforts
I feel sure you WILL reach that5 year newsetpoint,all in the course of time.
And thanks @Tracieknits for yr questions and thanks C for yr answers...very helpful and useful x
Hi @Brucee

I didn't have any problems not eating after dinner. I just used the standard fasting mantra "I can have it tomorrow" if I was missing out on dessert. And if I feel hungry later on which I sometimes do, I remind myself that it will pass and all will be reset in the morning. I think that focusing on getting in a good 16+ hours of fasting means that I know that if I eat late I'll have to wait a long time for lunch next day which may or may not fit with my plans for the day.

Re my tdee, my tracker page says around 1500 and I'm not losing weight! Of course my calorie counting could be wrong and the tdee calculator could be wrong to too.

However you are right about our metabolism tending to slow slightly more than is to be expected from the mere loss of weight. This article explains more https://www.fastday.com/fasting/what-ha ... se-weight/
galexinda wrote: Congratulations carorees on your achievements of losing the weight and above all maintaining your new much lower weight - just wish a journalist would interview you and the article printed and maybe an appearance on Breakfast TV as you are living proof that intermittent fasting works, not just for weight loss but also for the health benefits. You are truly an inspiration to the many people who look at this forum. :star: :star:


She is our inspiration and our pin up girl not sure I want to share her with the world yet to be honest.
Congratulations Caroline and also a big thank you for answering my/our questions over the years. I have learned a lot and am now trying to help colleagues and friends with their weight 'battles'.
Congratulations, well done and well deserved results. Must feel good to experience such a lot of confidence in being able to maintain. Perhaps that is one of the major benefits of one year of maintaining with such a lot of success :like:
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