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The well-intentioned graphic continues the long-standing impression that obese people are under-exercised by choice and presumes further that greater effort on their part would counteract weight gain. Seems reasonable?

The point made in the book Why We Get Fat, is that obese people can't exercise more due to a problem with their fat regulation system. It's not that they don't want to exercise; it's that they physically cannot. A typical high-carbohydrate diet causes insulin to flood their bodies telling their fat cells to vacuum up blood sugar and make it inaccessible. The end result is that there's little to no fuel left available to the muscles. Muscles can't perform without an energy source.

The least invasive solution? Carbohydrate restriction to control insulin levels which opens up the possibility to again utilize fat normally (along with substantially-limited carbohydrates) for energy. Athletes aren't thin because they exercise. They exercise because they are thin.

I try to take the stairs in the Tokyo subway as often as possible when I'm there, but honestly when using public transportation you do so much more walking than if you drive it seems a bit mean to ridicule people for using the escalator.

Maybe we are reading too much into this - perhaps the intention is to direct the able-bodied to the stairs, where there is much greater capacity, than be lazy and cause queues at the elevator which should be left free for the less capable?

If you put a person with a walking stick, that would imply everyone without mobility problems should use the stairs.

Just bumping this thread to remind to me to Get Up And Walk!

^ Thanks. It is a really interesting subject. Well worth a read through and then trying to implement.

Why would anyone want to do HIIT? Symptomatic of modern way of life ... get "fit" with HIIT in 3 minutes a week and the other 10,077 minutes in week sit around on your butt festering?

I hear you! One thing I've found in the last 4 weeks of doing HIIT, however, is that I'm more fidgety and during the day (I'm an engineer with a desk job) I walk to the water-cooler/coffee-maker and back a lot, creating a need to go back and forth to the bathroom.

Next I may ask for a desk that raises up so I can stand while working rather than sit. I'd love a treadmill desk, but I don't think that's going to happen in my office. A few others have already 'broken the seal' on stand-up desks, however, so I should be able to negotiate one of those.

[carorees]

From what I remember of DrM's Horizon programme the HIIT was meant to be accompanied by NEAT, not replace it!

For me, HIIT is part of a training program, which involves running twice a week and weight training 2-3 times a week.

NEAT is more a WOL. When I started IF, I already had a standing desk and had already vowed to take the stairs instead of the lift at work. I converted back to a sitting desk when I broke my arm, because I had too much else going on then. I need to switch back!

From what I remember of DrM's Horizon programme the HIIT was meant to be accompanied by NEAT, not replace it!

I totally agree with this. The two are not mutually exclusive at all. They compliment each other very well.

Interesting article in the daily mail about a study on the effects of a sedentary lifestyle on the over 60s.

I thought here was a good place to link to it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/artic ... rcise.html

Hope you don't mind me lifting your post and popping it into the sassy's thread Umleila, seemed appropriate for us grannies!

I've converted my desk back to standing. No more excuses!

[janeg]

Good on you @MaryAnn
I'm thinking more and more about setting a timer to make me get up and move. Becoming more aware/mindful of the need to NEAT. That in itself is making me more fidgety.

..When I started IF, I already had a standing desk and had already vowed to take the stairs instead of the lift at work. I converted back to a sitting desk when I broke my arm, because I had too much else going on then. I need to switch back!

I came to post on this thread and found this. I did switch back to standing, but now am sitting again (back troubles).

I actually made three changes before starting IF: standing desk, taking the stairs instead of the lift, and eating much less processed food. The stairs thing worked so well that it actually feels odd to stand and wait for a lift. Now with the back trouble and plantar fasciitis, all but the clean eating are going out the window. So my NEAT has gone down as has my intentional exercise. I'm panicking about my weight. I think the back problem is just muscular, and should mend soon. Fingers crossed.