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I'm 39 (and a 1/2 lol), 3 children(and a husband). 158cm 68kg
2 years ago I was on Dukan diet (was on various diet before tha too). Then 6 months later reached my goal 58kg...then switched to weight watchers and gained one kilo(2pounds ish)every month. Then got to 68kg!
September I tried 5:2 for 2 months, I lost 4pounds the first month then gained them back the month after.
Had a break between. Did 5:2 during Christmas hols, same ...I lost and gained. Then started again properly in January 7th 68kg.

I got my contraceptive implant out/off my arm the 20th of March.
I take very low dose of antidepressants to cope with my vestibular. I can't do Zumbas and activities like that. Car journey makes me tired because of my condition.
I come from a family who are overweight.
I take vitamins every morning. I am someone who gets cold and tired quickly. And too much sun makes me a bit poorly. I haven't got high energy quite the opposite but I love walking. I am healthy from my blood test in France last year

Fast days are Toast bit butter 2 poached eggs salad bit salad cream 1 fruit for dinner.
I love food especially sweet ones. I love being at home.

So followed that TDEE
TDEE: 1740 cal (said slightly active) + add calories from exercices
8 Feb 66.5kg Fat 34 Water 48.1
08Feb ate Food: 2040 and burned 200cal from cleaning/cook/exercices(mostly walking)
09Feb ate Food: 1897 and burned 300
10Feb ate Food: 2074 and burned 268
11Feb ate Food: 485 and burned 300ish
12Feb ate Food: 2079 and burned 384
13Feb ate Food: 479 and burned 380ish
14Feb ate Food: 2531 ---
15Feb 67.1kg Fat 34.5 Water 47.8
15feb ate Food: 1386 and burned 433cal from cleaning/cook/exercices(mostly walking)
16Feb ate Food: 1992 and burned 433
17Feb ate Food: 2032 and burned 331
18Feb ate Food: 449 and burned 248
19Feb ate Food: 1761 and burned 372
20Feb ate Food: 1719 and burned 391
21Feb ate Food: 346 and burned 267
22Feb 67.1Kg Fat 34.6 Water 47.8
22Feb ate Food: 2326 and burned 666
23Feb ate Food: 2034 and burned 331
24Feb ate Food: 1833 and burned 331
25Feb ate Food: 487 and burned 511
26Feb ate Food: 1950 and burned 528
27Feb ate Food: 1983 and burned 495
28Feb ate Food: 493 ---
01Mar 66.5kg Fat 34.6 Water 48
01Mar ate Food: 2010 and burned 528
02Mar ate Food: 1931and burned 297
03Mar ate Food: 1996 and burned 330
04Mar ate Food: 407 and burned 572
05Mar ate Food: 2418 and burned 572
06Mar ate Food: 1679 and burned 407
07Mar ate Food: 446 and burned 330
08Mar 66.7kg Fat 34.4 Water 47.8
08Mar ate Food: 2005 and burned 544
09Mar ate Food: 1775 and burned 363
10Mar ate Food: 1894 and burned 176
11Mar ate Food: 412 and burned 209
12Mar ate Food: 2329 and burned 44
13Mar ate Food: 1823and burned 231
14Mar ate Food: 507 and burned 181
15Mar 66.7Kg Fat 34.1 Water 48.1
15Mar ate Food: 1856 and burned 165
16Mar ate Food: 2019 and burned 304
17Mar ate Food: 2153 and burned 66
18Mar ate Food: 422 and burned 181
19Mar ate Food: 2022 and burned 353
20Mar ate Food: 2265 and burned 700
21Mar ate Food: 500 and burned 198
22Mar 67.5Kg Fat 34.7 Water 47.7
22Mar ate Food: 2361 and burned 66
23Mar ate Food: 2300ish ---
24Mar ate Food: 2000ish ---
25Mar ate Food: 500and burned 330
26Mar ate Food: 2247 and burned 682
27Mar ate Food: 1287 and burned 559
28Mar ate Food: 500 and burned 548
29Mar 68 kg Fat 35.2 Water 47.4
29Mar ate Food: 2200 and burned 528

So I need to change something So I'll try:
Today Sat30thMarch: TDEE:
MFP:1380 cal said sedentary witl 1/2pound off per week or
FS:1400cal sedentary with weight loss
I think that's the best for me: 1380 calories +
Walking, 2.5 mph, leisurely pace 40mns
Cleaning, light, moderate efforts 120mns
Cooking or food preparation 30mns
That will be an average of 1898 calories per day.

So I will try that and see. Wish me luck

Hi Pashcaline,
Sorry to hear you sounding so discouraged. Vestibular disorder is so debilitating and hard to cope with - I get frequent bouts of labyrinthitis and have to practically put my life on hold - no driving, yoga class etc. just going to the shops is like an olympic event, so i do feel for you, and stressing about your calories in and out must feel like the last straw. I looked at your stats and although you haven't lost much weight your waist measurement is heading in the right direction I am fairly new to this WOL so don't know why you're not losing more weight, hopefully Carol or Moogie will respond to your post, with some pointers.Wishing you well

Hi,
Sorry to hear it isn't working for you at the moment. Really disheartening.
Maybe you will need to lower the calories a little on the "normal" days as you suggest.
Hope things change (in a good way) soon.

How do you arrive at the "burned" figures ?

We are about the same size and age (but I have hypothyroidism) and it seems to me that perhaps you are eating a bit more than you should on your feed/feast days.
I don't know how you calculate how much you burn but still your intake seems a bit high.
Given that there are quite a few websites with TDEE calculators, I found this one to be the most accurate for me:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
When I was first introduced to 5:2 I was told in one phrase "eat less than 1500 calories for 5 days and less than 500 on two, non consecutive, days".
I assume that the 1500 doesn't stand for everybody but it is a good guide for me.

I think your burn figures are probably wrong .

Awwww, Thank you

When I say burned, it's on MyFitnessPal from cleaning/cook/exercices(mostly walking). You add them on the day then they add t up to your daily intake.
I think that I am more disappointed about eating less than my weight lol

I never take calories burned unless I was jogging or walking fast pace or going to the gym, maybe I am wrong but I don't count them

The Katch-McArdle prediction of Pashcaline's basal metabolic rate is 1320 calories. Add 20-30% for sedentary gives 1580 - 1720 expenditure (with no allowance for medical issues). I'm not sure whether to add the "exercise" values to that.

Average reported calorie intake was 1570 calories per day (ish)

Predicted calorie intake from weight loss/gain was 2560 (from a formula we've been playing with).

Edit to add: Reflecting on the above, if TDEE is at the lower end ie 1580 then it's a pretty close match to the reported average food intake, which would suggest eating less on the feed days in order to get an overall deficit.

So I went to http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm and they say Basic/Metallic rate is 1312cal or Little/no exerices 1574cal or exercises 3 times a week 1803cal or exercises 5 times a week 1918cal. Which one shall I choose? I walk from and back to school 10mns each way sometimes an hour a few times a week.
What do they mean by elevated heart rate? Walking is good for you even MM encourages it...I can't run or go to the gym because of my vestibular problem.

Oh Thanks PHIT: Aghhh Will I cope with 1570cal a day? I love food!!!It feels like a diet again than a way of life

I might try the 1800 calories one with my walk and see...then will decide if I need to go lower than that...
Ohlala

Hi Pashcaline, I'm afraid the only conclusion I can reach is the same as yours, and it is borne about by Phil's numbers: you have to cut down a bit on the overall calories, while keeping up the level of exercise. Sorry if that's not the preferred answer

I agree with Carol.
Although my only "exercise" is doing the housework and walking to the metro/bus, I wouldn't count them as real exercise, or consider that I burn calories while doing them. They are all normal daily activities, nothing more, nothing less.

I you want to lose weight go with either 1312 or 1574 or something in between.
It's definitely not a diet, Even with an average of around 1400 is two good meals and a sensible breaky.

I don't want to go too low because I read it might not work along 5:2. AndI love food..., I have to try to be very posh and eat with lifting up my little finger...

"Elevated heart rate" to me means over 100 bpm ie you know you're doing it and you're breathing more heavily.

I have a heart rate monitor and if I walk casually around town it's barely elevated compared to sitting around, if I try to walk at 4 mph / 6.5 kph for 15 minutes then it's elevated. To keep it at or above 120 I have to alternate between slow jogging and walking.

So try taking your pulse at the end of a walk and compare it with when you're watching TV or reading.

MFP's methods are in my opinion flawed, to add on the calorie estimate for exercise to what you should eat means a best no calorie benefit from the exercise, and at worst overeating if the calorie estimate is too high.

I like food too, you just have to savour it and eat more of the good things and less bulky calories with little value (fries, potato, pasta, etc). Even Princess Diana had dessert, but only a teaspoonful