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Thanks @tracieknits for this place!
Coming here makes me pause for thought and be mindful on nonfast days..sometimes i feel so euphoric on NF days that i forget the words 'nourishment' and ' tdee'
For example,funnily enough '@stephd and @golarne bith mention crackers..which i have a hankering for..but i cant eat one or two, i will eat half the pack,and also liberally spread with butter..so,not a good idea today * sigh* not til i can exercise some restraint..Image
@CandiveMarieStep away from the crackers! (Or at least none in between meals.) And then only get two or three out onto a plate and put the packet in a box with the lid on and in a cupboard... :wink:
I just had a delicious tesco finest lemon shortbread thin (70 cals) with a cuppa. Yummy! I didn't have a chocolate dipped flapjack (171 cals) like my OH. Well done me, I can use the saved 100cals up this evening!
Yup, those darn crackers get me every time. Last week I ate the whole box in one sitting! Yesterday was a success despite the little things. I stayed within my TDEE. Today I plan on having my chicken dinner in the afternoon when I am usually the most hungry and fill up on that so I don't want to snack in the evening. Seems to work better for me. Don't know why I don't do it more often :dazed:
Enjoy the day all! it is lovely and mild here with the sun peaking out of the clouds every once in a while. The snow is melting! Yippee!
Thanks for the suggestions @Norwegian_girl and @Tutti. I have wanted to start knitting again (after 20 years absence) - just need to find the needles and buy a pattern and wool... And I can get on the treadmill in front of the TV if I want, too. Just need to do it! :D

@Stephd and @CandiceMarie, I love crackers too, smothered in butter. But somehow I can resist these more often than I can chocolate... Assume it's the sugar??

Today will be a challenge. Fasted ok yesterday (well, 700 cals) but today I am flying to Adelaide and will be in the flight lounge beforehand, where I find it very hard to resist the food on offer. And it is a lunch flight as well... Part of the problem is that I don't really want to resist the food, despite knowing that I will eat more than I need and that I will have to deal with the consequences. I will try to savour each mouthful, and see if that helps - ie if I feel satiated, maybe I can stop myself eating more?? I will let you know - will the guilt of reporting back help? Hmm, probably not :(
Sometimes my biggest non-fast day problem is not planning proper meals. Today I'm making a favorite from my low carb days, a sort of fake chicken korma made with yoghurt. I really love it because the spices (cumin, coriander, and cardamom) in the yogurt are so yummy! I even found some coriander leaf to top it with. The only trouble is that it's also movie night, the timing of which is not ideal--too early to have dinner before, especially if you make it from scratch, but too late to wait until after.
Oh how wonderful to have more people joining in!!

I didn't do as well as I would have liked yesterday, so today I watched an episode of "My 600lb Life" - it's a reality show that follows an extremely obese person on a year of their journey to lose weight through gastric bypass surgery. Wow, it's horrifying. It's astounding that you can watch a 600 pound woman hear the doctor tell her to exercise and to not to eat any carbs, and see her go have a lunch of a quesadilla and rice, while refusing to exercise at all. It made me look at the denial going on in my own life, then I got on the treadmill. I think I'm going to record this series for when I feel my willpower flagging.
Wow, that's extreme @Tracieknits ! :shock: :wink:

I've had a much better day today too. A decent walk, fewer calories and the sun was shining! I wish I could make myself move about a bit more in the evening though... I'm very active during the day, but slump in front of the tv after dinner and don't move till bedtime. It's not healthy!
That's why I got a fitbit one (pedometer) so I could objectively measure whether I was being too sedentary or not. I'm getting back to the 10K per day (currently at 9K per day, increasing by 500 steps per day each week). As long as I hit at least 10K per day, I don't worry about feeling lazy. :-)
Slept in this morning, post grandsons, so brunch has just been a teaspoon of coconut butter, squeeze of fresh lemon juice on a small avocado, then 2 soft boiled organic large eggs, two mugs of fresh coffee and double cream. Had to end with 3 squares of 99% chocolate for good measure. About 500 cals all in. That's 14g carbs and 20g protein. Full now :0)
Should see me through to dinner of another tspn coconut butter, poached chicken breast with salad with a co yo yogurt for afters. Yum!
There'll be tisanes and water between, maybe an apple.
Off to clean the house now. Have a happy day :0)
What a lovely thread idea. Thank you.! This way of life does indeed affect every single day of your life, not just the fast days. As much as people like to think the 5:2 means 5 days of doing whatever you want in the eating department and still magically lose the inches and weight is not true. The TDEE is there for a good reason. Maybe one day here or there you can go over. but only on rare occasions.
@Tracieknits I watch My 600 lb Life too. For the stubborn ones I imagine myself getting up in their faces and badgering them about how to eat sensibly. So hypocritical as I can't even lose 25 lbs let alone 400! What really gets me is their enablers. All those friends, and boyfriends and parents and siblings who bring these immobile people all the food they eat. You'd think if they were controlling the food the overweight person could lose weight. Craziness.
My son has come home with more junk food! Donuts and cookies and he still has chocolates. Yesterday I gave in and ate so terribly, cookies and chips and chocolate. I can't even get through two weeks without giving in! How pathetic is that?! :dazed: I just made him some Pillsbury pizza, being too lazy to cook tonight and had a tiny piece, it is so good! and I want to eat more but that little piece I ate was about 75 calories and it was little bitty :smile: I plan on not giving in tonight. I am full from my lunch and I succumbed to those crackers again, about 250 calories worth but the box is now empty Yeah! until I buy more, ostensibly for my son's school lunches :lol: I need to find another snack, which I don't fancy, to put in his lunches. Any ideas?

I'll be back tonight if I get tempted by the sweets. I'm hoping my just writing it all down here, where everyone will be reading it will help me resist. Enjoy the evening!
Yeah, I just discovered this show. It's shocking that someone can bring their 600 lb family member a fast-food meal that is in direct contradiction to doctor's orders.

Then I look at my stash of UK Cadbury chocolate, next to my stash of Kinder Bueno, and my small pile of ghirardelli and I wonder if I really have room to criticize.

So I'm trying to use the show to shame myself into not eating so dang much and exercising more. I eat a lot of vegetables and healthy foods, I just need to eat less chocolate. And I had a lot of excuses for not getting as much exercise as I should in the past year. The doctor's orders to lay off probably expired in late September/early October when my heartrate calmed down. But I'm just getting back towards 10K/day now. >.<
My goodness, you have a stash? I can't keep a stash in the house of my own treats. I would eat them in an afternoon. I am surprised I have been able to resist my son's junk - until last night :frown: . Sounds like you have a much better handle on eating healthy foods than I do. I haven't had one vegetable today! isn't that shameful? I have kept under my TDEE and will stop eating now and not eat until 3 p.m. tomorrow. I've just decided that I will sit down tomorrow and make a meal plan for every day next week and then shop on Saturday for all the ingredients. I have to do something to start eating in a healthy manner! I realized this afternoon that I had no idea what to make for supper. Tomorrow is a fast day and I will make a tofu and vegetable stir fry for my main meal. I get very full when I eat it so it is a good fast day choice. I tend to eat so much better on fast days even if it is low in calories. Back to the couch, I am watching a Nature of Things documentary on the use of antibiotics. Toodles.
Hi again!
Had my third fast day yesterday. Let me tell you, after dinner around 6, it was HAAAARD! I am starting to feel like I am punishing my self on fasting days. I know I am not, that it is actually good for me and I wont starve, even if it feels like it at times.
And it did not help when the nabour came over with a whole box of take-away pizza (leftovers from their daughters birthday party). But I sat on my hands and sticked to my calories!
But when I measured my stomach this morning, It shows that I have gone it 2-2,5 cm, and lost a little over 1 kg since last thursday. I can live with that! :grin: I dont have a digital scale, but I really think I should get one now....
Norwegian_girl wrote: Hi again!
Had my third fast day yesterday. Let me tell you, after dinner around 6, it was HAAAARD! I am starting to feel like I am punishing my self on fasting days. I know I am not, that it is actually good for me and I wont starve, even if it feels like it at times.


This is actually why many of us save all of our calories for dinner. I have a really, really hard time going to bed hungry. So I eat all of my calories at night.

But you did a great job!!!
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