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[carorees]

It has become (metaphorically) the elephant in the room.

Or the elephant NOT in the room perhaps on account of your lovely slim shape!

Reading this thread made me think of peer pressure and both cigarettes and alcohol. Social echo. If I'm smoking/drinking/over eating/eating something "naughty", I need my friends with me, also running the risks. It's more fun to do with someone else, plus I feel better about myself. If someone else is doing it with me, it can't be that bad. If someone else is doing it with me, I don't need to feel guilty.

Maybe?

I guess I've been lucky. I've told very few people and they've been very supportive. In fact, one is recommending the diet to her ex-husband, who has struggled with weight and diets for awhile.

I will avoid talking to my mom about it. I'm pretty sure she'll freak out.

Well as they say: The best revenge is success ;>)

ps Brocky80...the hangimng face hahahahahaaaaaaaaa doing face exercises...hahahahaaaaaaaa

She has a new tactic now!
She tells me I'm too thin and gaunt (moi?) and I should stop this slimming nonsense...NOW!

I suppose you could try telling her how worried about the damage her excess weight was doing to her- but I guess that might make her an ex friend

I had the exact same thing when I went out with two of my friends last October - who, like yours, are somewhat larger than I. I was beginning to feel full after my starter (which was pretty big if you ask me! More the size of a lunch - two big lumps of pate, a pot of berry stuff and 4 slices of toast), couldn't manage all my main and by pudding time had to tell the girls I physically couldn't manage a pudding. They told me I was being silly and that I'm getting too obsessed with weight loss, blah blah - same sort of thing as your friend. They simply wouldn't believe that I was already full and started to lecture me about eating disorders etc. It doesn't help that one of them is a nurse! Anyway, they insisted I get a dessert. I managed all of about 2 spoons before I had to stop, I took the rest home for hubby in a napkin.

I don't see what's wrong with preferring not to eat until you're so stuffed you're likely to get a tummy ache and feel sick. I love food, and I will eat as much as I can manage but I simply cannot manage as much as I used to and I hate tummy upsets.

Personally I'd rather eat a bit less when I eat out and know the scales will continue go down that week than overfill my tummy and feel physically unwell, probably losing nothing because of all the uncessary extra rich, fatty food consumed.

Where I'm from, 3 courses is the exception not the norm. With the exception of a working dinner (already paid for, etc), no one I know would order all 3 courses without splitting at least 2 of them. And even for a working dinner, most people would still be leaving half empty plates.

Penny, you're probably going to hate me for saying this, but I think you need to reconsider your "friendship" with this person.

It sounds like she's just trying to drag you down. People who really care about you will build you up and encourage you. Perhaps you could be conveniently busy the next time your lunch date rolls around?

Perhaps I'll sound cruel but these people aren't our friends. I don't know anybody who would react like that, mainly because I don't bother spending my precious time with those who are unsupportive, jealous, trying to carry me away and eat more than I want to etc.
I haven't told many people about 5:2, because I want to have results before I spread the word. But I'm pretty sure that my real friends will be as excited as I am. As for the rest of the world? I don't give a rat's @rse!

Agree!

Remember the 'friend' who complained that she couldn't stock certain foods in her fridge when I stayed because of my allergies in a previous posting? Well, since then I have had a new hairstyle and whilst I haven't lost weight, I do have a bit of a shape now. I saw her recently and THE LOOK (of a thousand daggers) said it all, particularly when her partner complimented me on my new look. We have no plans to meet up in the near future!

[Betsysgr8]

From dictionary.com
friend

noun
1. a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.

2. a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.

3. a person who is on good terms with another; a person who is not hostile: Who goes there? Friend or foe?

4. a member of the same nation, party, etc.

5. ( initial capital letter ) a member of the Religious Society of Friends; a Quaker.

I found the synonyms more interesting:
Synonyms
1. comrade, chum, crony, confidant. See acquaintance. 2. backer, advocate. 4. ally, associate, confrere, compatriot.

Penny, you're probably going to hate me for saying this, but I think you need to reconsider your "friendship" with this person.

It sounds like she's just trying to drag you down. People who really care about you will build you up and encourage you. Perhaps you could be conveniently busy the next time your lunch date rolls around?

I do, as I get older, value my friendships.
We've been friends a quarter of a century now! However, I do take a somewhat perverse delight in my new slimmer line figure and wonder what she'll say next!

Ah ha! The truth comes out!

I admire your loyalty, Penny. As I get older, and more busy than ever, I've become more ruthless about whom I keep company with.

Ironically I've found friends who are slimmer than me have been quite critical. I haven't got much weight to lose, having lost 1 1/2 stones on SW prior to starting 5:2, but one friend who stills 'thinks this is a ridiculous diet' said to me that although she doesn't agree with what I'm doing she thinks I look really well! You can't please all the people all the time I guess