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Re: fasting and CFS
30 Sep 2014, 21:34
Think this is a great list@MountainMyst and @nursebean
Think will put on Chatterbox as well coz its so useful x
I had never heard of some of them :?:

16 of NATURE'S BEST NATURAL PAIN KILLERS

~ Christina Sarich | Natural Society
www.naturalsociety.com - Sept. 28, 2014

Are you in pain? You don’t have to reach for over-the -counter pain killers, or even the heavy pharmaceutical hitters prescribed by your doctor; there are literally hundreds of natural pain killers waiting for you in the abundance of nature. You can count on plants and herbs to alleviate everything from arthritis pain, to headaches, to burns – read on to find out more.

Many pharmaceutical pain medications, while effective and useful at times, can be downright dangerous, but there is another solution to your pain problem. “Almost always, if we find pharmaceuticals doing the trick, we’ll find a plant doing the same trick—and doing it more safely,” remarks botanist James A. Duke, PhD, author of The Green Pharmacy Guide to Healing Foods.

James N. Dillard, MD, author of The Chronic Pain Solution says:

“No matter how well you prescribe medication, chronic sufferers don’t get complete relief. It’s an enormous problem, and the medical community is doing a bad job solving it.”

Before you do anything else though, you have to ‘quit the junk food that riles up the body’s pain system.’ The modern Western diet comprised of highly refined foods, sugars, and refined carbohydrates, while devoid of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, etc., is going to block the ability of other non-pharmaceutical remedies to halt pain.

Once you’ve done that, you can turn to the many herbs that truly deliver. There are also over 60 different essential oils for pain that have analgesic properties. Analgesic means that a substance has shown to relieve or reduce pain. So many plants have pain-relieving properties.

Here are just a few natural pain killers.

15 NATURAL PAIN KILLERS

1., 2., and 3. Ginger, Turmeric, & Holy Basil

This set of herbs forms a sort of trinity in Ayurvedic medicine. All of them have anti-inflammatory properties. Turmeric (a curry ingredient) contains curcumins which ease inflammatory conditions like rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis, according to the Methodist Research Institute in Indianapolis. “Each herb has its own scientific database of evidence,” says James Dillard, MD, author of The Chronic Pain Solution.

4. Devil’s Claw (Harpagophytum procumbens)

This ominous sounding herb is actually great for treating numerous health conditions, among them are liver problems and heart burn. It also has anti-inflammatory effects and can reduce pain from arthritis, headaches, and low back discomfort. The University of Maryland Medical Center has published several studies that had great success treating Osteoarthritis with Devil’s Claw.

5. Birch Leaf (Betula Lenta)

The leaves from the Birch tree act much like cortisone, a prescription drug used to treat endocrine disorders, arthritis, lupus, skin disease, autoimmune disorders, and more. A main chemical compound found in Birch leaves is methyl salicylate, similar to salicylic acid used in aspirin. It is anti-spasmodic, analgesic, astringent, antifungal, diuretic, detoxifying, reduces oxidative damage to skin (stopping wrinkles), and enhances circulation. It also promotes enzymatic secretions in the body. It is truly one of the first powerful pain-relievers ever used.

6. Wintergreen Essential Oil

Also among natural pain relievers, Wintergreen Essential Oil contains 85-99% of methyl salicylate, the same component of aspirin.

7. White Willow Bark (Salix alba)

The active ingredient in white willow is salicin, which the body converts into salicylic acid. This tree’s covering lowers the body’s levels of prostaglandins, hormone-like compounds that can cause aches, pain, and inflammation. What’s more, white willow bark doesn’t upset the stomach or cause internal bleeding like many over-the-counter aspirins. Turn to this herb for relief from menstrual cramps, muscle pains, arthritis, or after knee or hip surgery as it promotes blood flow and reduces swelling.

8. Capsaicin (Capsicum)

Found in hot chile peppers, this natural remedy does wonders for pain. Capsaicin, the active pain-reducing ingredient, temporarily desensitizes nerve receptors called C-fibers which cause the pain response. Capsaicin also diminishes soreness for 3 to 5 weeks while the C-fibers regain sensation. A single 60-min application in patients with neuropathic pain produced effective pain relief for up to 12 weeks. Patients at the New England Center for Headache decreased their migraine and cluster headache intensity by applying capsaicin cream to their nasal passages.

9. Gamma-Linolenic Acid (GLA)

GLA can be found in numerous seed oils. According to University of Maryland, people who consume these essential fatty acids are able to reduce nerve pain associated with diabetic conditions.

10. Cherries

Due to the presence of compounds called anthocyanins—the same phytonutrients that give cherries their rich ruby hue – you can count on cherries to tamp down pain. Muraleedharan Nair, PhD, says, “They block inflammation and they inhibit pain enzymes, just like aspirin, naproxen, and other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatories.” Cherries are said to have the highest anti-inflammatory content of any food, making them great for remedying issues such as arthritis.

11. Aquamin

Derived from red seaweed, aquamin is a powerful pain reducer, too. In a study published in Nutrition Journal, of 70 volunteers, Aquamin users reduced arthritis pain by 20% in a month and had less stiffness than patients taking a placebo. Helping to diminish inflammation and helps to build bone, aquamin is rich in both calcium and magnesium, too.

12. Arnica

An excellent herbal rub to use after intense sports, an acute injury, or even post surgery, arnica is a well-known natural pain killer among athletes and yogis. It is derived from a European flower, and has anti-inflammatory properties, although the true nature of its healing action is still unknown.

13. Peppermint (Mentha piperita)

Peppermint is most often used as a natural remedy for toothaches, discomfort from bloating and gas, joint conditions, skin irritations, headaches and muscle pain.

14. Boswellia

This herb is sourced from the frankincense tree. Its resin is used to thwart chemical reactions that cause inflammation, and thus pain. Ayurvedic scientists have used Boswellia for centuries to treat arthritic conditions, as well as inflammatory bowel disease.

15. Bromelain

This natural pain-reducer comes from the enzymes present in pineapple stems. Research shows that it reduces levels of prostaglandins, which are hormones that induce inflammation. Bromelain may benefit people with arthritis and conditions marked by musculoskeletal tension (like TMJ syndrome), in addition to those suffering trauma-related inflammation. The enzyme also promotes healing in muscles and connective tissues.

16. Cranberry Juice

Having a bout of ulceritis? Ulcers usually result from a pathogen called H. pylori which attacks the lining of the stomach and small intestines, but cranberry juice can kill it – reducing pain. Instead of turning to antibiotics, destroy the bacteria causing your ulcers and urinary tract infections with cranberries.
Re: fasting and CFS
06 Oct 2014, 14:20
I think I'd prefer to stick with Ibuprofen and paracetomol :confused:
Re: fasting and CFS
19 Oct 2014, 10:30
Hi @CandaceMarie and @Nursebean, did you think I had gotten abducted by aliens? I'm so sorry I just disappeared, I've been pretty ill the past few weeks. I found that you can't take anti-inflamatories on an empty stomach and not have your stomach stay happy. :-) I have had to change my whole fasting routine, I now have to eat something at least every few hours during the day, if I take my meds. Makes staying within the 500calories a bit of a challenge, but I'm still keeping them low. Basically I'm just maintaining, within 3 lbs of my goal, I'm fine with that.

Candy thanks for the great list of herbs. I have actually used the willow bark, turmeric and ginger, works really well. I make up my own capsules, which is why I still take other meds, often I don't have the energy to make them.

So how are you ladies doing? beanie, how's the business going? Candy, how are you? I've missed you all, I just have not had a functioning brain for a while. Will try to do better. Love and hugs Phyllis
Re: fasting and CFS
19 Oct 2014, 11:00
Hi MM@MountainMyst! So good to see you here but so sorry to hear about your poor old tum x
Within 3 lb of yr goal is excellent tho x!
Nursy is very busy with ebay so hasn't been here a lot - i do worry about her booming and busting.
I' m ok thanks,have had great days and awful days CFS wise..both ends of the spectrum!
DD and SIL move into new house this coming week!
Take care MM...lovely to hear from you xxx
Re: fasting and CFS
26 Oct 2014, 11:54
Hi @ CandiceMarie, I must apologize once again for disappearing. Life seems to be running me over of late. How did I the move go? I hope everyone is all settled and not too exhausted. Moving is so hard on a body, even a healthy one.

We are working hard, at least as hard as our bodies will let us, to get this house done up to sell. I would love to just have one "normal" month and we could get it done. As it is, work one day, rest two, it is going to take a while. ;-)
Fasting is going ok, how about you? Have you read the thread "no progress" AussieNessi, is doing an elimination type diet and it is helping her loose weight, and her ME/CFs is improving. It's a rather drastic move, but if it helps?? I have tried just about everything to get better, but haven't tried that restricted a diet. Did gluten free, vegetarian, raw food etc, no improvement unfortunately, but I find I do. Bit better when I limit breads, I wonder if it's the yeast? Anyhow, I thought it was an interesting thread.
Gotta run, need to get the kitties fed, someone's two kittens have taken up residence under our shed, and I'm trying to take care of them they are starting to trust me a bit more, and they are used to seeing me about now. Sending you a big hug and wishes for a grand week. Phyllis
Re: fasting and CFS
26 Oct 2014, 13:14
Hi Phyl@MountainMyst the move itself went smoothly but five days on,still a lot to do and things to fix
Like you said,wish DD and me could have one 'normal' month just to get straight and iron out the probs we're encountering as does everyone when they move house i guess. Fortunately SIL is very well
DD and i went gluten free for a long time when our IBS was very bad. Those symptoms have more or less gone now,for both of us..thankfully,as it was very painful.
Will look out for the thread you mention!
Thanks for looking after those little kitties xxxx
rest day for me today! Take care Phyl,love to you and D X
Re: fasting and CFS
28 Oct 2014, 09:15
Ooh Candy @Candicemarie I could really do with some advice on IBS. My mum has it but seems to be in denial or something because she doesn't try illiminating any food types. I think she should start by going gluten-free because she sometimes has a horrible "blogging episode" when she eats stuff like rice or pasta. The other day it was during a delicious meal of Spag bol! Any advice would be much appreciated.
Sorry you've had a rough time Phyl @Mountainmyst and sorry I've bean away for so long. Don't mean to neglect my fasting friends, I've just had so much to do. I've got more stuff coming tomorrow...so I'm trying to "enjoy" the quiet before the storm!
Hope you two are ok and look forward to hearing all your news xx
Re: fasting and CFS
01 Nov 2014, 11:31
Hi Candy@CandiceMarie, hope you have managed a bit of rest. Moving is so hard, even when you are healthy. Gluten free is not much fun is it?? Although I still do need to keep my intake down, it seems to be yeast breads that cause me the most bloating and weight gain. Hope today is a good one!!
Hi Beany @nursebean, good to "see" you!!! Glad your business is doing so well! Sorry I haven't gotten back to you. It's been a week of doctor visits and going out just knackers me. I used to have a lot of problems with IBS, mine has gotten better, and sadly I can't tell you why. I have learned to eat small meals, increase fiber seems to help, but needs to be done SLOWLY. Be especially careful of going a long time without food then eating a large meal, funny advice from a faster I know. I would suggest cutting down on the carbs as it seems to cause your Mom difficulties. Maybe she could write down her meals for a while and see if she can spot a pattern? Hope your day is a great one.
Well, got to run. Sending you a great big hug and wishes for a wonderful day. Phyllis
Re: fasting and CFS
01 Nov 2014, 12:38
Happy Saturday @MountainMyst and @nursebean x
Just calling in quickly,cant type much
Arms v sore today,tender muscles and what i can only describe as toothache in my arms :confused:
Take care dear girlies,hope yr weekends go well xox
PS Phyl,thank goodness for some blessings..so pleased that you,me and my DD have recovered from the dreaded IBS ..again,we arent sure how this happened, but it feels like a miracle to no longer have those awful spasms X
Re: fasting and CFS
24 Nov 2014, 16:32
Hi Phyl @MountainMyst xx
Hope things are going well for you :like:
I wanted to ask if you ve heard of a drug called Low Dose Naltrexone..i am about to start a three month trial on it. Weirdly,in a high dose,its licensed in Uk but not in a low dose! However the low dose has been shown to help people with auto immune illnesses like MS,lupus,and M.E.
I have to get it on private prescription and have to have a very low dose as i have underactive thyroid and the low fose can be too much..i.e., can change the underactive thyroid to overactive very rapidly.
Looking online, studies and surveys seem to suggest it helps most people at least a little bit,mainly with pain and sleep. Not been as effective helping with fatigue. Sadly for some,they get no benefit .
Fingers crossed for me. Wanted to alert you to it Phyl,and @nursebean...also to
@crackers and @chingola xx
Re: fasting and CFS
24 Nov 2014, 16:57
I'm so pleased to hear you're going to try a new prescription candy @Candicemarie let's hope that 2015 will be miracle year for you and that you'll feel so much better. I'm keeping everything crossed for you . I guess that even if it doesn't workyou won't have lost anything for giving it a go. Although it may not be a cure let's hope it gives you greater relief from your symptoms.
Phyl? Where are you? Hope you're ok. Maybe you could try this medication if it works for Candy? It's just great to know they're working on something at least! Hope you haven't bean suffering too badly lately. Have you bean able to fast lately? I'm back in the saddle today and I've bean a good little bean...so far (the day isn't over yet ;) )
Anyway, hope you're ok.
Bean xx
Re: fasting and CFS
24 Nov 2014, 17:40
@carorees have you heard anything of Low Dose Naltrexone..to help those with autoimmune illnesses? X
Re: fasting and CFS
25 Nov 2014, 10:28
Hi @candicemarie

No, never heard of it.

A quick look in the medical literature shows that it seems to be of use for pain because of its action on opioid receptors (the pain receptors on the nerves that respond to morphine and similar opium-derived drugs) but it also may have an anti-inflammatory component acting on nerve inflammation in particular and which only seems to occur when used in low doses.

There is a useful review of it here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24526250
Low-dose naltrexone (LDN) has been demonstrated to reduce symptom severity in conditions such as fibromyalgia, Crohn's disease, multiple sclerosis, and complex regional pain syndrome. We review the evidence that LDN may operate as a novel anti-inflammatory agent in the central nervous system, via action on microglial cells. These effects may be unique to low dosages of naltrexone and appear to be entirely independent from naltrexone's better-known activity on opioid receptors. As a daily oral therapy, LDN is inexpensive and well-tolerated. Despite initial promise of efficacy, the use of LDN for chronic disorders is still highly experimental. Published trials have low sample sizes, and few replications have been performed. We cover the typical usage of LDN in clinical trials, caveats to using the medication, and recommendations for future research and clinical work. LDN may represent one of the first glial cell modulators to be used for the management of chronic pain disorders.

Note the part I've highlighted above.

Good luck with it Candice Marie, I really hope it helps you. :heart:
Re: fasting and CFS
25 Nov 2014, 12:07
Thanks so much for the info Caroline @Carorees. I can't wait to hear Candy's results. I do so hope it provides some improvement for her. Might be tempted to try it myself :wink:
Re: fasting and CFS
25 Nov 2014, 21:50
Thanks so much @carorees Caro x
Sorry,one more question...from what ive read,high dose Naltrexone is licensed ( or whatever the right word is) but low dose isnt...that doesnt seem to make any sense to me...have you any idea what that means?

Have taken on board where you have stressed the words ..thanks for that..
Am praying it will help but trying to stay cool..Would be fab if at last those of us with auto immune related illnesses and no medication for it could get some good quality of life back
Watch this space! X
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